Worried about organic chemistry?

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Switching to chemistry from math with aspirations for forensic work raises concerns about starting with an organic chemistry course, especially without prior chemistry background. Organic chemistry is often perceived as challenging but is likened to memorizing mathematical identities, focusing on mechanisms and visual learning rather than heavy mathematics. It's unusual for a student to begin with organic chemistry without first completing a general chemistry course, which typically lays the foundational knowledge necessary for success. Students are advised to consult academic advisers for clarification on course prerequisites and structure. While some suggest it's possible to study organic chemistry independently, a solid understanding of general chemistry concepts is crucial, as college courses often assume prior knowledge.
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Hi, I've been meaning to switch over to chemistry ( in hopes of doing forensic work in the future ) from math. I have no chemistry background, so I have been self-studying over the summer.. However, the first chemistry course offered at my university is an organic chemistry course. People tell me that this is a tough field in chemistry, and it will not be a general chemistry course. Should I be worried :(
 
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Organic is nothing to worry about. It's very similar to memorizing a list of mathematical identities whose chemistry analog is called a mechanism. Given certain conditions, atoms will move around in a certain way. It's a boring course, but very important for chemistry.
 
Noxide said:
Organic is nothing to worry about. It's very similar to memorizing a list of mathematical identities whose chemistry analog is called a mechanism. Given certain conditions, atoms will move around in a certain way. It's a boring course, but very important for chemistry.

I agree with this...except the boring part :-p.

Certainly it's not nearly as mathematical as physics or even general chemistry. It's far more visual, IMO.

I've never heard of organic as a first course, that's unusual. How many labs per week are there?
 
Organic as as your first chemistry course sounds strange. Since you have no prior chemistry background, I'd recommend you check with your adviser or the chemistry department for clarification. A full year of general chemistry is generally given before organic, but your school might just have different naming so who knows.
 
actually, there are two streams of chemistry you can take in this school:

http://www.artsandscience.utoronto.ca/ofr/calendar/crs_chm.htm

There's CHM 138 (Organic ) and then CHM 139 (Physical ) [each one semester long ]

or just one full year course CHM 151, which looks like a general chemistry course. CHM 151 is supposed to be for specialists though (the term is analogous to "honours" )

If I were to pick up some chemistry textbooks for study, would it be wrong to start reading some organic chemistry right away too?
thanks for all the replies :)
 
Do you mean you did not learn chemistry in high school? Then it will be very painful as chemistry is a "hard" subject IMO.
Certainly one can enroll in accounting courses even though they did not learn it in high school as the accounting courses in college teach you first the basic knowledge. However Chemistry courses in college mostly assume you know the basic and teach you difficult knowledge at the start.
 
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