Youngs Modulus and Standing Waves combined question

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The discussion focuses on calculating the lowest frequency that generates a standing wave pattern in a compound wire made of aluminum and steel, with the joint acting as a node. Key parameters include the lengths, cross-sectional areas, and densities of both materials, along with Young's Modulus values for each. Participants suggest using the relationship between force, area, and change in length to equate the two wire equations for aluminum and steel. The importance of determining linear mass density (μ) from volume mass density (ρ) and cross-sectional area (A) is emphasized for further calculations. The goal is to derive an expression for mass in terms of these variables to facilitate frequency calculations.
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The figure shows an aluminum wire of length L 1 = 60.0 cm, cross-sectional area 1.00 x 10-2 cm2, and density 2600 kg/m3, joined to a steel wire of density 7.80 g/cm3 and the same cross-sectional area. The compound wire, loaded with a block of mass 10.0 kg, is arranged so that the distance L 2from the joint to the supporting pulley is 86.6 cm. Transverse waves are set up on the wire by an external source of variable frequency; a node is located at the pulley. [Hint: You may want to calculate the ratio of the number of loops in the steel compared to the aluminum. Then surmise which numbers will give you the desired lowest frequency.]

-What is the lowest frequency that generates a standing wave pattern that has the joint as one of the nodes?

*Youngs Modulus --> Aluminium: 7x10^10
Steel: 20x10^10 kg/m^3

My Attempt:

Y= (F/A)/(ΔL/L)
-The force put on both strings will be equal so I tried setting the two wire equations equal as
YAΔL/L (for aluminium) = YAΔL/L (for steel)

I was trying to find the length of the other string but I got stumped because I did have the change in length for either string.

I needed the length of each string for the equation μ=mass/length because v=√(F/μ) and frequency equals velocity/λ.

I'm not sure I even knew where I was going with this. Please help!
 

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