Z-transform and even/odd signals.

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The discussion focuses on the properties of the Z-transform for real-valued discrete-time signals, specifically addressing why the magnitude |X(e^jω)| is even and the phase ∠X(e^jω) is odd. It highlights that real-valued signals lead to complex-conjugate pairs in the pole-zero plot, resulting in even symmetry for the magnitude. The argument for the phase being odd is based on the properties of the arctangent function. Participants emphasize the relationship between the signal's real nature and the implications for the Z-transform's characteristics. The conclusion reinforces that the even and odd properties stem from the nature of real-valued signals in the Z-transform context.
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Homework Statement


"Let x[n] be a real-valued DT signal. Using the Pole-Zero plot of X(z), argue as to why:
a. |X(e^jω)| is even in ω.
b. ∠X(e^jω) is odd in ω.

Hint: if x[n] is real, what can we say about the poles and zeros of X(z)?

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The Attempt at a Solution


I figure that X(z) will probably of the form, \frac{(e^jω-z1)(e^jω-z2)...}{(e^jω-p1)(e^jω-p2)...}, and I know even functions are defined by x(n)=x(-n) and odd functions by x(n)=-x(-n), but beyond that, not much.
 
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If x(n) is real valued then:

x(n)=x*(n)

DTFT x(n) <-------> X(e^jw)
DTFT x*(n) <-------> X*(e^-jw)

X(e^jw)=Re{X(e^jw)} + jIm{X(e^jw)}
X*(e^-jw)=Re{X(e^-jw)} - jIm{X(e^-jw)}

since x(n)=x*(n), X(e^jw)=X*(e^-jw)
thus Re{X(e^jw)} + jIm{X(e^jw)}= Re{X(e^-jw)} - jIm{X(e^-jw)} so
|Re{X(e^jw)} + jIm{X(e^jw)}| = |Re{X(e^-jw)} - jIm{X(e^-jw)}|
Even symmetry.

sorry that looks sloppy...

You can use the same logic to show the phase is odd.Hint: real-valued signals result in complex-conjugate pairs.
 
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I came up with an elegant solution to this problem, albeit it didn't use poles and zeros.

Re(x[n]) -> 0.5(X(z) + X*(z*))
Im(x[n]) -> -0.5j(X(z) - X*(z*))

Im(x[n])=0, therefore we can conclude that X(z) = X*(z*). (1)
I read in a book that, for real signals X(-z)=X*(z). (2)

|X(z)| = sqrt(X(z*)X*(z*)) (from eq. (1)). (3)

X*(z)=X(-z) and X(z)=X*(-z) (from eq. (2)). Substituting this into eq. (3) gives you:

|X(z)| = sqrt(X(z*)X*(z*)) = sqrt(X(-z*)X*(-z*)), which is the definition of an even function.


As for angle,

∠X(z) = arctan(Im(X(z)/Re(X(z)). Arctan is odd, therefore ∠X(z) is also odd.

If you see any mistakes, please respond.
 
That is all correct.

To use poles/zeros you just need to realize that real values create complex-conjugate pairs, so one real input will give you |a|e^jb and |-a|e^-jb making a z-plane plot look something like this:
. |Im
. | x
. |
------------------------------------
. | Re
. | x
. |

So you can see that magnitude is the same (even) and the angle (pi/4 vs -pi/4 for example) is odd.
 
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Sorry none of the spacing worked... I think you get the idea.
 
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