Bowling ball rolling, going up a ramp, and continues rolling.

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A bowling ball of mass 2.2 kg rolls up a frictionless ramp at an angle of 55°, initially traveling at 3.2 m/s and slowing to 0.3 m/s at the top. The acceleration while going up the ramp was calculated to be -8.2 m/s², using the net force equation. The correct kinematic equation, v2² = v1² + 2ad, can be applied to find the displacement along the ramp, as it only pertains to the distance where acceleration occurs. Clarification was provided that the displacement should be measured only along the ramp, not from the start to the end of the entire motion. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying the forces and applying the right equations to solve for the ramp's length.
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Homework Statement



A bowling ball of mass 2.2kg is rolling along a track at 3.2m/s when it reaches a ramp angled at 55°, The ball rolls up the ramp to the top where the track levels out again, and the ball rolls at 0.3 m/s. How long is the ramp?

mass = 2.2kg
v1 = 3.2 m/s
v2 = 0.3 m/s
angle of the ramp = 55°
Not sure about the friction so I'm going to assume it's frictionless.

Homework Equations


Fnet = ma
Not sure


The Attempt at a Solution



Well from what we know I was able to find the acceleration going down the ramp was -8.2 m/s^2.

I found this out because the only force acting on the ball while the ball was going up the ramp was the force fog ravity and I used the following equation.

Fnet = ma
Fx = ma
-18 = 2.2a
a = -8.2

This is assming there is no friction and choosing up the ramp to be positive.

I know I don't have much done but I'm lost as to what to do now. I was wondering if I could use the equation:

v2^2 = v1^2 + 2ad

I don't know if that would work since that would give us the displacement from the very beginning to the very end and not only the length of the ramp.
 
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You have the correct equation at hand with v2^2 = v1^2 + 2*a*d. You do not have the correct value for acceleration. Frictionless assumption is correct.

Draw a free body diagram of the ball on the slope to assist in determining acceleration. Hint: Use trigonometry.
 
LawrenceC said:
You have the correct equation at hand with v2^2 = v1^2 + 2*a*d. You do not have the correct value for acceleration. Frictionless assumption is correct.

Draw a free body diagram of the ball on the slope to assist in determining acceleration. Hint: Use trigonometry.
I'm not able to find my mistake, wouldn't this be the free body diagram?

I know this is a poor diagram since I did it on paint but am I missing something here

http://sadpanda.us/images/840435-L0XGODW.jpg
 
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OK, I see that you are using 10 m/sec^2 for g. I used 9.81. So with your value of g, you have the correct acceleration.

Now look at the equation you wrote: v2^2 = v1^2 + 2ad

You have v2, you have v1, you have a. You seek d. So...
 
The only thing I'm not sure about is wouldn't the displacement be from where it started rolling to where it ended rolling? So it's not necessarily the length of the ramp.
 
The ball has no acceleration on the flat surfaces so there is no change in velocity on those surfaces. The equation

v2^2 = v1^2 + 2ad

only applies to the distance (d) where there is an acceleration. It represents the change in velocity only over that distance (d) where (a) applies and (a) is constant.
 
Ahh, I see, okay, thank you very much ^^
 
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