Bandwidth at resoance and peak dB level

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the bandwidth at resonance in a series RLC circuit when component values are doubled. The user has simulated the circuit and observed a gain peak at -20.82 dB, seeking clarification on how to calculate this value. The voltage across the resistor at resonance is measured at 6.428V, with a total measured voltage of 7.07V due to RMS readings. The calculations involve using impedance equations and finding the peak value by analyzing the derivative of the output voltage with respect to frequency. The breakdown of equations has clarified the process for the user, leading to a calculated peak value of approximately -20.83 dBV.
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Hi,

I'm investigating what happens to bandwidth at resonance of a series RLC circuit when each component is doubled.

i have simulated the circuits and created a bode plot. You can see from the photos that at resonance the gain peaks at -20.82 dB. I would like to know how to calculate this value.

i have an input voltage of 10Vp and the voltage at resonance across the resistor is 6.428V. i understand that the voltage across both resistors is 7.07V because the multimeter is measuring RMS but how do i calculate the db level.
 

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Thanks for the reply but that still doesn't tell me how to calculate the -22 dB.
 
You have a voltage divider with impedances:

Z1 = R1 + j*omega*L + 1/(j*omega*C) = R1 + j*(omega*L - 1/(omega*C) )
Z2 = R2

Your measured voltage, call it Vout, is then given by:

Vout = Z2/(Z1 + Z2) = R2/(R1 + R2 + j*(omega*L - 1/(omega*C) ) )

with magnitude:

|Vout| = R2/sqrt( (R1 + R2)^2 + (omega*L - 1/(omega*C) )^2 )

Find peak value by finding roots of the derivative of |Vout| with respect to omega and substitute into Vout, you probably know the drill.

My solution gives:

Peak value = R2/sqrt( (R1+R2)^2 + (L/sqrt(L*C) - sqrt(L*C)/C)^2 ) = 0.0909 V = -20.8279 dBV

for R1 = 10 ohm, R2 = 1 ohm, L = 70 mH, C = 110 uF.
 
Thanks,

Once you're broke down the equations its made it easier to see what is going on.

Thanks for the help :)
 
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