What Is the Magnetic Force on a Proton Moving in a Magnetic Field?

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The discussion centers on calculating the magnetic force on a proton moving in a magnetic field. The proton's velocity is in the -y direction while the magnetic field points in the +y direction, leading to confusion about the force's magnitude. The correct interpretation of the cross product indicates that the magnetic force is zero because the vectors are anti-parallel. A participant clarifies that the cross product is not the same as scalar multiplication, reinforcing that the resulting force vector is indeed zero. This conclusion aligns with the initial assumption that the magnetic force could be zero.
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Homework Statement



Proton moving in -y direction with a magnetic field pointing in the +y direction with a manitude of 5.0 T. The proton has a velocity of 3.01x10^7, What is the magnitude and direction of the magnetic force.

Homework Equations



F=q(v x B)


The Attempt at a Solution



The answer I think is either 0 or 1.5x10^8.

I say it might be zero cause the cross product of anti-parallel vectors is zero right? Or I say its 1.5x10^8 because I just plugged into the above equation a solved. Which one is it? Or is it neither.
 
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TheDoorsOfMe said:

Homework Statement



Proton moving in -y direction with a magnetic field pointing in the +y direction with a manitude of 5.0 T. The proton has a velocity of 3.01x10^7, What is the magnitude and direction of the magnetic force.

Homework Equations



F=q(v x B)


The Attempt at a Solution



The answer I think is either 0 or 1.5x10^8.

I say it might be zero cause the cross product of anti-parallel vectors is zero right? Or I say its 1.5x10^8 because I just plugged into the above equation a solved. Which one is it? Or is it neither.

Id take your first answer, zero.

By the looks of it, you have taken cross product to be the same thing as scalar multiplication, which is not true. Have a look at these links for more about the vector cross product:

http://cnx.org/content/m13603/latest/
http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcII/CrossProduct.aspx

If you were to define the velocity vector as <0, 3.01x10^7, 0> m/s and the magnetic field vector as <0, -5, 0> T, and then proceeded to apply the cross product operation, you would end up with a zero vector, which would agree with your first answer.
 
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