Really complicated solve for x problem

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In summary, the equation can be simplified using trig-substitution when not integrating, but it can become complicated very quickly if not done correctly.
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really complicated "solve for x" problem.. please help..

Homework Statement


[This is the final step in a "critical thinking" problem assigned as extra practice/intense application] Find the value of x, for the given equation, when f(x) = [tex]\frac{49}{6}[/tex][tex]\pi[/tex]


f(x) = [tex]\left(x\right)[/tex][tex]\times[/tex][tex]\sqrt{49-x^2}[/tex] + 49sin[tex]^{-1}[/tex][tex]\left(\frac{x}{7}\right)[/tex]



Homework Equations


(This is where I need help, I have tried moving around the values, sqaring both sides, applying e and ln; my T.A. could only think of plugging f(x) into a graphing calculator and tracing to y = [tex]\frac{49}{6}[/tex][tex]\pi[/tex])
*A big question I have is if trig-substitution (aside from integration) can be used, or another method I am not "equipped with," with simplifications.



The Attempt at a Solution


This is what is left after integrating a problem, the answer should be ~1.85 (from graphing/tracing). I tried simplifying using regular relationships:

sin[tex]^{-1}[/tex][tex]\left(\frac{x}{7}\right)[/tex] = [tex]\frac{1}{6}\pi[/tex] - [tex]\left(x\sqrt{49-x^2}\right)\div49[/tex]
 
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You're not going to be able to solve this by algebraic means. The simplest approach is to graph the function and see what value of x gives a y value of 49pi/6.
 
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Hi phys-lexic! :wink:

Try the obvious substitution. :smile:
 
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I understand algebraic means won't help, which is why I'm posting this question.

Trig-substitution is what I was thinking, but is that applicable when not integrating? (We were only introduced to trig-substitutions with integrals, for obvious reasons)
 
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phys-lexic said:
Trig-substitution is what I was thinking, but is that applicable when not integrating?

Yes! You can always substitute, if you think it will make the problem easier. :smile:
 
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Would be a lot simpler if there was only a way to make that first term go to zero...
 
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If f(x)=y, substitute Sqrt[a^2-x^2]=dy/dx, then it reduces to the standard form dy/dx +Py=Q
 
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Aah.. I tried it out a few times and ended up going in circles. Thankyou anyways everyone, now I know why this question is "way harder than the exam would be."
 

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