Understanding Matrix Inversion in SL(2,C)

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The discussion revolves around the inversion of a matrix equation related to the group SL(2,C), specifically focusing on the expression of a 2x2 matrix derived from a 4-vector and a vector of Pauli matrices. Participants explore the process of tracing with different matrices to recover components of the original vector.

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  • One participant defines a matrix V from a 4-vector and a vector of Pauli matrices, raising questions about how to invert this to solve for the original vector components.
  • Another participant clarifies that to recover a specific component of the vector, one should take half the trace of the product of a specific matrix with V, emphasizing the importance of matrix indices.
  • A third participant discusses the basis for complex 2x2 self-adjoint matrices and introduces an inner product that leads to an orthonormal basis, suggesting that any element in this space can be expressed in terms of the basis matrices.
  • A later reply confirms the understanding of the tracing process, detailing how to handle the indices correctly and deriving the relationship between the trace and the vector components.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of tracing and the relationships between the matrices involved, but there are nuances in the understanding of indices and the implications of the trace operations that remain somewhat contested.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion regarding the indices used in the tracing process, indicating that clarity on this point is necessary for understanding the inversion of the matrix equation.

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Hi,

I'm just reading about the group SL(2,C). In the book that I'm using(Jones, groups reps and physics), he defines a 2x2 matrix from a generic 4 vector v_{\mu} and a vector \sigma_{\mu}:=(1,\vec{\sigma}), as V:=v_{\mu}\sigma^{\mu}

He nows wants to invert this equation to solve for v_{\mu}, and he suggests tracing with another vector of matrices defined as \tilde{\sigma_{\mu}}:=(1,-\vec{\sigma}), and he obtains v_{\mu}=\tfrac{1}{2}Tr(\tilde{\sigma_{\mu}}V)

I can't seem to get this, starting with V:=v_{\mu}\sigma^{\mu} and then multiplying by \tilde{\sigma_{\nu}}, leads to \tilde{\sigma_{\nu}}V:=v_{\mu}\sigma^{\mu}\tilde{\sigma_{\nu}}

Now I'm not sure what indices I'm supposed to trace with?
 
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Your V is a 2x2 matrix. If you want to recover v_{\nu} (i.e. the nu'th component of the vector v), you should take \frac{1}{2} Tr(\tilde{\sigma}_{\nu}V), where nu is not summed over. In other words, if you want the first component, take the 2x2 matrix \tilde{\sigma}_1, left-multiply (though inside a trace order doesn't matter) it with the 2x2 matrix V, and take half the trace of the resultant 2x2 matrix. Try a simple example if this isn't clear; pick (1,0,0,0) and try to recover v_0.
 


I'm going to write all indices as subscripts. \{I,\sigma_1,\sigma_2,\sigma_3\}, is a basis for the real vector space of complex 2×2 self-adjoint matrices. I'll call that space V. If we define an inner product by

\langle A,B\rangle=\frac{1}{2}\operatorname{Tr}(A^\dagger B)

for all A,B in V, it's an orthonormal basis. So if we define \sigma_0=I, any x \in V can be expressed as x=x_\mu \sigma_\mu, with x_\mu=\langle\sigma_\mu,x\rangle. Note that all the x_\mu are real. (This is implied by the facts that V is a real vector space and that \{\sigma_0,\sigma_1,\sigma_2,\sigma_3\} is a basis of V).

x_\mu=\langle\sigma_\mu,x\rangle=\frac{1}{2}\operatorname{Tr}(\sigma_\mu^\dagger x)=\frac{1}{2}(\sigma_\mu x)_{\nu\nu}

The map \mathbb R^4\ni (x_0,x_1,x_2,x_3)\mapsto x_\mu\sigma_\mu\in V is an isomorphism. So V is isomorphic to \mathbb R^4.
 
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Thanks for the help.

I convinced myself of this in the end.

<br /> \tilde{\sigma_{\mu}}V:=\tilde{\sigma_{\mu}}(v_{\beta}\sigma^{\beta})<br />
Tracing (on the 2x2 matrix indices, not 4 vec indices, which is I think what was confusing me):
Tr( \tilde{\sigma_{\mu}}V)=( \tilde{\sigma_{\mu}}V)_{ii}=(\tilde{\sigma_{\mu}})_{ij}(v_{\beta}\sigma^{\beta})_{ji}=v_{\beta} (\tilde{\sigma_{\mu}})_{ij}(\sigma^{\beta})_{ji}

Now we have that, \tilde{\sigma_{\mu}}=(1,-\vec{\sigma}) and \sigma^{\mu}=(1,-\vec{\sigma}). Therefore if \mu=\beta : (\tilde{\sigma_{\mu}})_{ij}(\sigma^{\beta})_{ji}=1_{ii}=2 (since e.g. 1x1=1, \sigma_{x}\sigma_{x}=1, \sigma_{y}\sigma_{y}=1, \sigma_{z}\sigma_{z}=1 etc, no summation)

On the other hand if \mu\neq\beta, we end up with (\tilde{\sigma_{\mu}})_{ij}(\sigma^{\beta})_{ji} equal to the trace on another Pauli matrix by virtue of the cyclic identity \sigma_{i}\sigma_{j}=i\epsilon_{ijk}\sigma_{k}, and the since the Pauli matrices are traceless, this trace of the product is zero.

Combining these facts:

Tr(\tilde{\sigma}_{\mu}V)=v_{\beta}\delta^{\beta}_{\mu}2 which implies v_{\beta}=\tfrac{1}{2}Tr(\tilde{\sigma}_{\mu}V)
 

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