Beam bending, overhang with 2 concentrated loads

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a beam supported at two locations with two equal loads applied at the endpoints, requiring the computation of the central deflection. The discussion revolves around the bending moment equations and their integration to find deflection.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the bending moment along the beam, questioning the assumptions made about the moments at various points. There are attempts to derive the equations for the bending moments and deflection through integration, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into their reasoning and questioning each other's approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the determination of moments, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the methods used.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions related to the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A beam supported at two locations is subjected to two equal loads at the end points
Compute the central deflection W.

Schematic:

\downarrow........\downarrow
____________________________
<--->Δ<-------><------->Δ<--->
...a...L...L...a

The delta's are the supports the arrows the forces F and a & L distances

Homework Equations



M(x) = E*I*W"(X)

The Attempt at a Solution



At first I try to formulate the momentum along the beam. x = 0 at the center of the beam.

I thought it would be zero at the points where the Forces are, and maximum at the center.
So I came up with:

M(x) = F(1+\frac{x}{a+L})*(a+L) with x left from the center and

M(x) = F(1-\frac{x}{a+L})*(a+L) with x right from the center.

w" = EI/M(x)
Integrating this twice should yield the result:
w'(x) = \frac{F}{2EI}x^{2} + \frac{F}{EI}(a+L)x + C

But w'(0) = 0 so C = 0

integrating once more gives:
w(x) = \frac{F}{6EI}x^{3} + \frac{F}{EI}(a+L)x^{2} + C

solving for C with w(L)=0 gives: C = - \frac{FL^{2}}{EI}(\frac{a}{2}+\frac{2L}{3})

which therefore should be the max deflection, because at x=0 deflection is max and w(0) = C

The problem is I have no way to check my result, and I'm not quite sure of the result. Could someone check me and explain me where I went wrong (if so)
 
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SolMech said:
M(x) = F(1+\frac{x}{a+L})*(a+L) with x left from the center and
Could you explain how you arrive at that, please? I'm not saying it's wrong...
 
With the argument that it should be zero at the force and maximum at the midpoint, I determined them to be linear in between, so that with negative x, M(x) goes from x= -a-l -> M(-(a+L))=0 to x=0 giving M(0)=F(a+L).

Also I see that i did not integrate right, forgot some constants, but the problem lies mainly in the determination of the momentum along the beam, the rest is straightforward I guess.
 
SolMech said:
With the argument that it should be zero at the force and maximum at the midpoint, I determined them to be linear in between, so that with negative x, M(x) goes from x= -a-l -> M(-(a+L))=0 to x=0 giving M(0)=F(a+L).
I approached it by actually taking moments. For a point x left of centre, x < L, there's an anticlockwise moment F(x+L) from the support and a clockwise one F(x+L+a) from the load. Doesn't that make the bending moment Fa for all x between the supports? Beyond the supports it's F(L+a-x).
 
I'm not sure how you determined these moments.. What do you mean by: "I approached it by actually taking moments". Did you divide the problem into halfs and used M = F*x,
and then used that if there is a load F, the support gives a reaction force F?

If this is what you did, it is still not obvious for me how you arrived at the moments from this.
 
Ah never mind! Got it, thank you for your help!
 

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