How Do You Calculate the Mass of a Wire Using Line Integrals?

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The problem involves calculating the mass of a wire along a piecewise linear curve using line integrals. The density function of the wire is provided, and the endpoints of the curve are specified.

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  • Participants discuss the parametrization of the curve and the appropriate form of the integrand for the line integral. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the density function and the differential arc length.

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Some participants are exploring different parametrizations and questioning the setup of the integrals. There is an indication that guidance has been offered regarding the correct formulation of the integrand, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the derivatives used in their calculations and the implications of the parametrization on the line integral.

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A wire lies along the piecewise linear curve extending from the point (2,4) to the point (8,6) to the point (8,11). If the density of the wire is given by p(x,y)=2xy+6x, use a line integral to find the mass of the wire.

Here is what I have tried:

C1: (1-t)<2,4>+t<8,6>
C1: x=2+6t y=4+2t

\int_{0}^{1} 2xy+6y dt
\int_{0}^{1} 2(2+6t)(4+2t)+6(2+6t) dt = 82

C2: (1-t)<8,6> + t<8,11>
C2: x=8 y=6+5t

\int_{0}^{1} 2xy+6y dt
\int_{0}^{1} 2(8)(6+5t)+6(8) dt = 184

82+184 = 266

However this is incorrect :(
 
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Tom McCurdy said:
C1: (1-t)<2,4>+t<8,6>
C1: x=2+6t y=4+2t

\int_{0}^{1} 2xy+6y dt
I think the integrand should be \rho ds=\rho \frac{ds}{dt}dt
where ds is a piece of length from your curve. So if you parametrized the line by \vec r(t), then ds=|\frac{d\vec r}{dt}|dt
 
Are you saying I need to do

\int_{0}^{1} (2xy+6x)* \sqrt{(2y+6)^2+(2x)^2}

C1: (1-t)<2,4>+t<8,6>
C1: x=(2+6t) y=(4+2t)


\int_{0}^{1} (2(2+6t)(4+2t)+6(2+6t)) * \sqrt{(2(4+2t)+6)^2+(2(2+6t))^2}

C2: (1-t)<8,6> + t<8,11>
C2: x=(8) y=(6+5t)

\int_{0}^{1} 2xy+6y dt
\int_{0}^{1} (2(8)(6+5t)+6(8)) * \sqrt{(2(6+5t)+6)^2+(2(8))^2} =

Then add the results of the two integrals?

However this is incorrect :(
 
Galileo said:
I think the integrand should be \rho ds=\rho \frac{ds}{dt}dt
where ds is a piece of length from your curve. So if you parametrized the line by \vec r(t), then ds=|\frac{d\vec r}{dt}|dt

Any ideas... I was not quite sure what you meanat by this post...
 
Ahhh I figured it out... I was doing the wrong dervatives...
 

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