How Does Integration by Parts Apply in Calculating Average Energy?

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The discussion focuses on using integration by parts to calculate average energy from the formula involving exponential decay. The user correctly identifies the components for integration by parts, with u as E and dv as e^(-E/kT). However, confusion arises regarding the textbook's approach, which includes an unexpected term in the integration process. The user suggests that the textbook may have misrepresented the limits of integration, indicating a potential error. Clarification on this integration method is essential for accurate calculations of average energy.
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Hi,

while solving for the average energy given by the following formula:

\overline {E} = \frac {\int_{0}^{\infty} E e^\frac{-E}{kT}dE}{\int_{0}^{\infty} e^\frac{-E}{kT}dE}

where E bar is average energy, k is the Boltzmann's constant, and T is temperature

I had to use integration by parts for the numerator.

Integration by parts formula is \int u dv = uv - \int v du

So I made the following choices (and so did my textbook):

u = E

then du = dE

dv = e^\frac{-E}{kT}

and so v = -kTe^\frac{-E}{kT}

Then I proceeded by applying the integration by parts formula, and the integral of the numerator would be:

\int_{0}^{\infty} E e^\frac{-E}{kT}dE = -EkTe^\frac{-E}{kT} + kT \int_{0}^{\infty} e^\frac{-E}{kT}dE

but to my surprise, the book proceeded in the following manner:

\int_{0}^{\infty} E e^\frac{-E}{kT}dE = kT \left[e^\frac{-E}{kT} \right]<br /> _{0}^{\infty} + kT \int_{0}^{\infty} e^\frac{-E}{kT}dE

That first term to the right of the equal sign threw me off...where did it come from?
 
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dv=e^{-\frac{E}{kT}} \ dE

then you're right. It has to be some error in the book. Perhaps they meant

kT \left[e^{-\frac{E}{kT}}\right]_{+\infty}^{0}

,that is converting the minus before the whole term into an interchange of integration limits.

Daniel.
 
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