Who discovered the general case of Stokes' Theorem?

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The discussion revolves around the historical discovery of Stokes' Theorem, particularly focusing on who is credited with the general case of the theorem. Participants explore various contributions from notable mathematicians and their implications within the context of higher-dimensional generalizations of the theorem.

Discussion Character

  • Historical
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that William Thompson (Lord Kelvin) is credited with the three-dimensional case of Stokes' Theorem, while others mention that the general case has contributions from various mathematicians including Ostrogradsky and Volterra.
  • One participant references a source that discusses the historical context of Stokes' Theorem, indicating that it was later associated with Maxwell and the Smith's Prize examination.
  • Another participant claims that Elie Cartan is credited with the general case, while also mentioning that Henri Cartan, his son, was part of the Bourbaki group.
  • There is a mention of confusion regarding the names associated with the discoveries, with some participants humorously reacting to the informal reference to Cartan as "some guy."
  • Several participants express curiosity about the historical development of the theorem and its various interpretations, highlighting the complexity of its attribution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on who should be credited with the general case of Stokes' Theorem, with no consensus reached on a singular discoverer. The discussion reflects multiple competing perspectives and acknowledges the contributions of various mathematicians.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various historical sources and texts, indicating that the understanding of Stokes' Theorem and its generalizations may depend on specific definitions and interpretations, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

DeadWolfe
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I know that th three dimensional case was discovered by William Thompson, but who discovered the general case?
 
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According to
http://maxwell.byu.edu/~spencerr/phys442/node4.html
which claim to refer to
E. T. Whittaker's A History of the Theories of Aether and Electricity...
says
"1850 - Stokes law is stated without proof by Lord Kelvin (William Thomson). Later Stokes assigns the proof of this theorem as part of the examination for the Smith's Prize. Presumably, he knows how to do the problem. Maxwell, who was a candidate for this prize, later remembers this problem, traces it back to Stokes and calls it Stokes theorem"

Some interesting reading
http://www.siam.org/siamnews/09-00/green.htm

How "general" do you want?
According to "[URL
"The History of Stokes' Theorem", Victor J. Katz
Mathematics Magazine, Vol. 52, No. 3. (May, 1979), pp. 146-156.[/URL] (available on JSTOR),
among those that worked on what would become the higher-dimensional "generalized Stokes theorem" is Ostrogradsky (1820s, 1836 for the generalized divergence theorem) and Volterra (1889 for including Green, Div, Stokes as special cases).
 
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Thank you for the article. Interesting stuff.

Aparently Ostrogadkssy discovered Gauss' theorem, Cauchy discovred Green's theorem, Kelvin discovered Stokes' theorem, and some guy named Cartan discovered the general case (which is also called stokes theorem). So none are named correctly. Hmm.
 
If you read page #192 of Arnold's book on "Mathematical Methods of Classical Mechanics" you'll see just how big the confusion might be...:-p

Daniel.
 
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Wow. Things just keep getting curiouser and curiouser. Thanks all.
 
DeadWolfe said:
and some guy named Cartan

Some guy called Cartan! Some guy! Blasphemy.

Stoke's theorem and Noether's are probably two of my favourite theorems.

\int_{U}d\tilde{\omega}=\int_{\partial U}\tilde{\omega}
 
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Perturbation said:
Some guy called Cartan! Some guy! Blasphemy.
Hehe, that's what I was thinking!
 
My deepest apologies for my ignorance.

Who is Cartan?
 
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Elie Cartan lived in the first half of the 1900s, and made huge discoveries in the study of Lie groups, representation theory, differential geometry, topology and a whole host of others. He gave a complete classification of the simple Lie algebras, and he worked with Einstein on some problems in General Relativity with a non-zero Torsion field. He was also the first person to describe Newton's theory of gravity using the language of differential geometry, and you'll often see it called 'Newton-Cartan geometry' nowadays.
 
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Cexy said:
Elie Cartan lived in the first half of the 1900s, and made huge discoveries in the study of Lie groups, representation theory, differential geometry, topology and a whole host of others.
I read elsewhere that the discoverer of Stokes theorem was Henri Cartan, Elie's Cartan son. Henri Cartan was member of the Bourbaki group.

perturbation said:
Stoke's theorem and Noether's are probably two of my favourite theorems.
I agree. These two theorems enclose the true beauty of calculus. I think that the derivation of Euler's variational equation is other good example of that beauty: to obtain such a profound equation using high school math, and of course Euler's geniality.
 

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