How Does a Potter Stop a Rotating Wheel Using Friction?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the effective coefficient of kinetic friction between a potter's wheel and a rag used to stop it. The potter's wheel has a radius of 0.5m and a mass of 100kg, rotating at 50 revolutions per minute, and it stops in 6 seconds with a 70N force applied. The key steps involve determining angular acceleration, using torque equations, and relating frictional force to the applied force. The participant confirms their approach to solving the problem, which includes calculating angular acceleration and using it to find the frictional force and coefficient of friction. Overall, the method outlined is correct for solving the homework problem.
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Homework Statement



A potter's wheel - A thick stone disk of radius 0.5m and mass 100kg is freely rotating at 50rev/min. The potter can stop the wheel in 6s by pressing a rag against the rim and exerting a radially inward force of 70N. Find the effective coefficient of kinetic friction between the wheel and the rag.

Homework Equations



torque = RF
Torque = I(moment of inertia) x radial acceleration

The Attempt at a Solution



Sum of forces on the x axis: F(applied) - F(normal) = 0
F(applied) = F(normal)
The froce of friction is on the y-axis and is opposite to the direction the wheel turns, and F(friction) = (coefficient of friction)F(normal)

Sum of forces on the y axis: I'm not sure what other force opposes the frictional force. Normally I would have thought F(friction) = ma, but it is not a particle that we are looking at, so I'm a little confused.

And for the sum of the forces for torque, i know Torque = I(angular acceleration). Fir this i think I= 1/2 MR^2, and I can find angular acceleration with angular speed(final) = angular speed(initial) + angular acceleration X t.

I'm also not sure what forces affect torque.

Any help is appreciated.
 
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Your nearly there. Basically, the friction from the rag is the torque, you know how long it takes the wheel to stop and its initial angular velocity and therefore you can work out the angular acceleration. From this you can work out the applied torque, and hence the frictional force; from which you can calculate the coefficient of friction.
 
So, i find the angular acceleration, using:
final angular speed = initial angular speed + (angular acceleration)t

Then, I use the angular acceleration to find the frictional force by:
torque = RF(friction) and torque = I x (angular acceleration), therefore,
RF(friction) = I x angular acceleration.

Finally I use F(friction) = coefficient x F(normal), where F(normal) = F(applied), and I solve for the coefficient of friction.

Is this what I need to do?
Thanks a lot for all your help.
 
mirandasatterley said:
So, i find the angular acceleration, using:
final angular speed = initial angular speed + (angular acceleration)t

Then, I use the angular acceleration to find the frictional force by:
torque = RF(friction) and torque = I x (angular acceleration), therefore,
RF(friction) = I x angular acceleration.

Finally I use F(friction) = coefficient x F(normal), where F(normal) = F(applied), and I solve for the coefficient of friction.

Is this what I need to do?
That's exactly what you need to do :approve:
mirandasatterley said:
Thanks a lot for all your help.
Twas a pleasure
 
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