Spring Problem and average force

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The discussion centers on calculating the speed of an object using the average force from a spring problem. The average force is given as 5.7 N, but the user initially misapplied the formula by dividing it by 2, leading to an incorrect speed of 2.22 m/s instead of the correct 3.1 m/s. The elastic potential energy (E_p) stored in the spring is clarified to be equal to the work done by the spring, expressed as E_p = F_avg * x. It is emphasized that the average force does not equal the maximum force when the spring is compressed. The correct interpretation of the formulas and values is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


E_p = \frac{Fx}{2}
E_k = \frac{mv^2}{2}

The Attempt at a Solution


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I get 2.22 m/s, but the answer key says 3.1 m/s. Where did I go wrong?
 
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The average force is already given as 5.7N. You mistakenly divided it again by 2. E_p = F_avg(x)
 
Check your value for Force. The problem gives average force...this is not equal to the actual force when the spring is compressed 1.3 cm.
 
So Phanthom, you're saying that E_p = F_{ave}x is an actual formula?
 
temaire said:
So Phanthom, you're saying that E_p = F_{ave}x is an actual formula?
The elastic potential energy stored in a spring is equal in magnitude to the work done by it when moving from its compressed distance, x, to its original uncompresed length, that is, E_p = \int Fdx, from the definition of work, where F, from Hookes Law, is F =kx. Performing the calculus, you get the well known equation for the elastic potential energy of the spring, E_p =1/2kx^2. Noting that F=kx at its max compressed point, this is identically equivalent to E_p = F/2 (x), or E_p = F_{avg} x.
In your problem, the average force is given as 5.7N. This means the force in the spring is 0 in its uncompressed length, and 11.4N when it is compressed 1.3cm.
 
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