Discussion Overview
The discussion centers on the experimental basis of special and general relativity, highlighting recent updates to relevant compilations and exploring the implications of certain experimental results. Participants reference various sources and papers that compile experimental evidence and discuss potential inconsistencies with relativity theories.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant notes that the Usenet Physics FAQ on the experimental basis of special relativity has been updated, including new experiments and a section on experiments that may not align with special and general relativity.
- Another participant inquires about a compilation of experimental evidence for general relativity, expressing interest in more recent sources beyond the MTW reference.
- A different participant suggests a 2014 paper by Clifford Will as a good compilation of experimental evidence for general relativity, while acknowledging it does not include the latest LIGO results.
- One participant introduces the concept of optical extinction and its relevance to measurements of the speed of light, referencing classical electrodynamics and discussing how this may affect conclusions drawn from certain experiments.
- The same participant raises questions about the implications of measuring the speed of light through different media and the potential relevance of various cited papers, although they admit to not having read them.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express interest in the experimental basis of both special and general relativity, but there is no consensus on the significance of certain experiments or the completeness of the available compilations. Multiple competing views and sources are presented without resolution.
Contextual Notes
Some discussions involve limitations related to the definitions and assumptions underlying the measurements of light speed in various media, as well as the scope of the referenced compilations.