Ionic concentration / number of ions

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The discussion revolves around the concept of ionic concentration in chemical and biological experiments, specifically how to determine the number of ions in a given volume and the density of ions on a surface based on concentration. The scope includes basic definitions, calculations related to moles, and the relationship between concentration and the number of molecules.

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  • One participant inquires about calculating the number of ions contained in a specific volume based on concentration.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the definition of a mole, leading to a discussion about its role as a quantity unit rather than a mass unit.
  • A participant provides the formula for calculating the number of molecules from concentration, suggesting that for a concentration of 15 mMole, the calculation involves multiplying the concentration by Avogadro's number.
  • There is a mention of the volume unit "M" which is identified as mol/liter.
  • A participant calculates the number of water molecules in one liter, using the molecular mass of water and Avogadro's number, arriving at an approximate total of 334.52 x 10^23 molecules.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions and calculations related to moles and concentrations, but there is no consensus on the broader implications of these calculations for determining ionic concentrations in various contexts.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of units and the calculations involved, but does not resolve potential ambiguities regarding the application of these concepts in different experimental settings.

somasimple
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Hi all,

We use often concentrations in chemical/biological experiments.
It is expressed usually in mili/µ mole/cm3 or mm3

Is there a way to know the number of ions contained in a volume?
Is there a way to know the number of ions (or density) on a surface knowing the concentration?

Sorry for these basic questions.
 
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What is mole definition?
 
Mole: a chemical mass unit, defined to be 6.022 x 10E23 molecules, atoms, or some other unit.

Consider I'm stupid.
 
somasimple said:
Mole: a chemical mass unit, defined to be 6.022 x 10E23 molecules, atoms, or some other unit.

Not a mass unit, quantity unit. But you are right - 6.02x1023 of elements. Just an overgrown dozen it is.

Do you know how to calculate number of moles of substance given volume of sample and concentration?
 
I suppose.
If the concentration is 15 mMole then the number of molecules contained per unit of volume is:

(15/1000)*6.02x10E23
 
Wasn't that hard :wink:
 
Sure but I'm so lazy...
 
What is the volume unit on this page?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=.0Doz_14FBoKlEE7VO_HAyJwxnZMXWZZQAN0H9
 
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M usually stands for mol/liter.
 
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Many salt are solvated in water.
How many water molecules are in a liter?
 
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No matter, I found the response:

1 liter of water has mass about 1000 grams/liter.
Molecular mass of water=18
so No. of moles in 1liter = 1000/18= 55.55 moles
this multiplied by Avogadro's number: 6.022*1023
will give number of water molecules in 1 liter as:
55.55*6.022*1023 ~= 334.52*1023
 
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