Voltage across a capacitor can't change abruptly because

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A capacitor's voltage cannot change abruptly because such a change would require infinite current, which is not physically possible. The mathematical relationship shows that as the time interval approaches zero, the current approaches a finite value, contradicting the notion of instantaneous voltage change. Instantaneous voltage changes imply an infinite rate of change (dV/dt), leading to infinite power and current, which cannot be achieved in practical scenarios. The discussion highlights the relationship between voltage, current, and energy, emphasizing that any change in voltage necessitates work and energy transfer. Therefore, while voltage can change rapidly, it cannot do so instantaneously without requiring infinite resources.
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current would need to be infinite for this. Why is this. Can anyone show the maths behind this? Cheers!

*EDIT* ok i just did some maths on a basic RC circuit. If t approaches zero then the current simply approaches -(Vi/R).. which isn't infinite. This is why i can't grasp this. I would love to see the theory behind why this is. TY
 
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i_{c}(t)=C\frac{dv_{c}(t)}{dt}

The rest is left as an exercise to the reader ;-)

HINT: a limit is involved.

Voltage can change instantaneously in a capacitor... But only if single charges are being applied to the plates (Single Electron Transport devices)--this is near the cutting edge of research.
 
Yeah limit t ---> 0 and I -----> infinity yah? however dv/dt = lim change in t --> 0 [change in V / change in t] so if we are already limiting change in t towards zero then how can we do this doubly so?
 
Andrew123 said:
Yeah limit t ---> 0 and I -----> infinity yah? however dv/dt = lim change in t --> 0 [change in V / change in t] so if we are already limiting change in t towards zero then how can we do this doubly so?

I don't understand what you mean by:
dv/dt = lim change in t --> 0

Take the limit as dv/dt goes to infinity (instantaneous voltage change).
 
but what sends dv/dt to infinity?
 
Andrew123 said:
but what sends dv/dt to infinity?

That's the definition of an instantaneous voltage change (finite change in voltage in 0 time). You might have rising or falling voltage (say, 0 to 5 V or 5 V to 0V), but really, the idea is the same (infinite current).
 
Sorry but still why does the current need to be infinite?
 
If you want the the voltage to change instantaneously, that means you want dV/dt to be as large as possible, approaching infinity, right? Remember that changing instantaneously means that on the V/t graph you want to have a vertical line at one point and not a smooth continuous one. Now, what is the gradient of a line which is very nearly vertical? What happens if it is vertical? Now what does dV/dt equal to?
 
Andrew123 said:
Sorry but still why does the current need to be infinite?

If \frac{dv}{dt} goes to infinity so must C (a constant) times this number. Since this quantity happens to be the current...
 
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A capacitor with charge has energy. W = C*(V^2)/2. A change in voltage requires a change in energy which requires that work be done. If voltage changes instantly, then dw/dt = power is infinite. A source of infinite power does not exist (well, actually it does, but we are discussing science in the real world, and not theology).

Infinite power would result in infinite current for an instant as p = v*i.
 
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