Electric Field minimum in a spherical capacitor.

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The problem involves analyzing the electric field in a spherical capacitor with a constant potential difference between its plates. The original poster attempts to demonstrate that the electric field at the surface of the inner sphere reaches a minimum when the radius of the inner sphere is half that of the outer sphere.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of line integrals to relate electric field and potential difference, with some questioning the notation used for potential difference. There is mention of using the mean value theorem and taking derivatives to find minima, but uncertainty remains about the steps to achieve this.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various approaches to the problem, including the implications of the potential difference and the relationship between the electric field and the geometry of the capacitor. Some guidance has been offered regarding notation and integration methods, but no consensus or clear resolution has emerged yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the notation for potential difference, as well as the original poster's uncertainty about the correctness of their previous attempts. The problem constraints include the requirement to show a specific relationship between the radii of the spheres.

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Homework Statement



The potential difference \Delta\phi between the plates of a spherical capacitor is kept constant. Show that then the Electric Field at the surface of the inner sphere will be a minimum if a = \frac{1}{2}b

Homework Equations


E = \frac{Q}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}r^{2}}
between the plates.

The Attempt at a Solution


Not really sure. I know that
\Delta\phi = - \int E dl
and that it is constant. But not really sure how to proceed from here. I think I need to find some sort of new equation for E, then find the minima? Answer in the back of the book is E = 4 (delta)(phi) / b

The answer latex didn't work, sorry.
 
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Your line integral can be taken along a radial line, from a to b.

BTW, I would use \Delta\phi instead of \nabla\phi for the total potential difference. It's just a notational convention, but it is a very common one, and I was a little bit confused at first.
 
turin said:
Your line integral can be taken along a radial line, from a to b.

BTW, I would use \Delta\phi instead of \nabla\phi for the total potential difference. It's just a notational convention, but it is a very common one, and I was a little bit confused at first.

Err, yes I meant delta phi. Taking the line integral doesn't help with the solution. If I did take the line integral, I get the electric potential difference. But this isn't helpful because
\Delta\phi = \frac{Q}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}\left(\frac{1}{b}-\frac{1}{a}\right)

And then how would I find the minimum of the electric field from there?

I already passed in the problem--probably done incorrectly. I used the mean value theorem to integrate over E from b to a, then divide by (b-a). Then I took the derivative with respect to a, and tried to set equal to 0 but there were no values for which that occurred. I did manage to get rid of one of the two terms when a = (1/2)b.
 
Consider Q as a function of a (or b, or their ratio).
 

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