How to find the metric given the interval

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The discussion focuses on deriving the Lagrangian from a given interval using the metric tensor. The interval ds^2 is expressed as a sum of terms, allowing for the identification of components of the metric, specifically g_{11} = 1 and g_{22} = sin^2(φ), while confirming that off-diagonal terms are zero. Participants emphasize the straightforward nature of this process and suggest writing out the summation for clarity. The topic is situated within the realm of Classical Mechanics, highlighting its relevance to the study of Lagrangian dynamics and metrics. Understanding this relationship is crucial for applying these concepts in physics.
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If we have a Lagrangian which looks like this:

L=\frac{m}{2}g_{ij}(x)\dot{x}^i\dot{x}^j

where:

ds^2=g_{ij}(x)dx^idx^j

If we are told that:

ds^2=d\phi^2 +(sin^2 \phi) d\theta^2

How can we show that the Lagrangian is:

L=\frac{m}{2}[\dot{\phi}^2 +(sin^2 \phi) \dot{\theta}^2]

Is there a general way of determing the metric from the interval?

Thanks.
 
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It is easy. The term in the interval proportional to d\phi^2 comes from the term g_{11}. Therefore you can read off g_{11} = 1. Similarly you can read off g_{22} = sin^2(\phi). There are no terms in the interval proportional to d\phi d\theta, so you can conclude the off-diagonal terms are 0 in the metric.

If none of this is obvious, write out the summation g_{ij}dx^{i}dx^{j} and convince yourself of it.
 
nicksauce said:
It is easy. The term in the interval proportional to d\phi^2 comes from the term g_{11}. Therefore you can read off g_{11} = 1. Similarly you can read off g_{22} = sin^2(\phi). There are no terms in the interval proportional to d\phi d\theta, so you can conclude the off-diagonal terms are 0 in the metric.

If none of this is obvious, write out the summation g_{ij}dx^{i}dx^{j} and convince yourself of it.

thanks nicksauce:)
 
In what subject area is this topic addressed? It sounds very interesting.
 
Prologue said:
In what subject area is this topic addressed? It sounds very interesting.

Classical Mechanics...
 
vertices said:
Classical Mechanics...

Bummer, in my junior mechanics class, we didn't do this.

(i'm not talking about lagrangian stuff but, rather, the metric stuff.)
 
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