Question regarding GR and the cylinder condition

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The discussion centers on the "cylinder condition" in Kaluza-Klein theory, specifically regarding the derivatives of the metric tensor g_{\mu\nu} with respect to the fifth dimension, X^4. It is established that these derivatives are set to zero to explain the non-detection of X^4, contrasting with the detection of the three spatial dimensions X^1, X^2, and X^3. The confusion arises from the assumption that zero derivatives imply a flat metric, while the presence of mass alters the metric from the flat Minkowski space. The participants seek further resources on the 5-D metric proposed by Klein for unifying electromagnetism and gravity.

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Question regarding GR and the "cylinder condition"

Im reading that in Kaluza-Klein theory, the derivatives (of the metric g_{\mu\nu} with respect to the 5th dimension, X^4, were chosen to be zero, to explain why we do not "feel", or detect, the existence of X^4 i.e. the Cylinder Condition (a few different sources including http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9805018 page 4, 1st paragraph.
But thinking about minkowski space it seems to me that derivatives of the minkowski metric with respect to all the spatial coordinates X^1, X^2, X^3 are zero, but obviously we do detect X^1, X^2, X^3, thus my confusion.

I realize that zero derivatives implies that the geodesic becomes an equation that describes flat space. But not why it would mean that we don't detect those dimensions.

Thanks.

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How do you detect the 3 familiar space dimensions without any massive particles to do experiments with? If there is mass in your spacetime, the metric will not be the flat Minkowski one.
 


gabbagabbahey said:
How do you detect the 3 familiar space dimensions without any massive particles to do experiments with? If there is mass in your spacetime, the metric will not be the flat Minkowski one.

Thanks. I need to look further into the 5-D metric proposed by Klein for the unification of EM and gravity and how that worked - any ideas for a good source for that? a review article or something of the sort...

thanks again.
 

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