Solving Integration Question: \int\frac{dx}{(R^{2}+x^{2})^{3/2}}

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The integral in question, ∫dx/(R²+x²)^(3/2), was approached using the substitution x = Rtan(θ), leading to a transformation of the integrand. However, the discussion highlights a critical mistake in handling the limits of integration, as θ cannot approach infinity due to the periodic nature of the tangent function. The correct evaluation of the integral requires proper limits, ultimately revealing that the integral's value is 2, not 1. Additionally, the symmetry of the cosine function can be utilized to simplify the evaluation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of maintaining the correct form of the integral throughout the substitution process.
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Homework Statement



\int\frac{dx}{(R^{2}+x^{2})^{3/2}}

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The Attempt at a Solution



\mbox{Let }x = R\\tan\theta \Rightarrow dx = R\\sec^{2}d\theta
x^{2} = R^{2}\\tan^{2}\theta
\Rightarrow R^{2} + x^{2} = R^{2}\\( 1 + tan^{2}\theta)
\Rightarrow R^{2} + x^{2} = R^{2}\\sec^{2}
\Rightarrow (R^{2} + x^{2})^{3/2} = R^{3}\\sec^{3}\theta

\mbox{Therefore, }\int\frac{dx}{(R^{2}+x^{2})^{3/2}}
=\int\frac{R\\sec^{2}\theta}{R^{3}\\sec^{3}\theta}\\d\theta
=\frac{1}{R^{2}}\\ \int^{\infty}_{-\infty}cos\theta\\ d\theta
=\frac{1}{R^{2}}\stackrel{lim}{n\rightarrow\infty} \int^{N}_{-N}cos\theta\\ d\theta
=\frac{1}{R^{2}}\stackrel{lim}{n\rightarrow\infty}(sin\theta)\mid^{N}_{-N}
=\frac{1}{R^{2}}\stackrel{lim}{n\rightarrow\infty}(mbox{sin N + sin N})
=\frac{2}{R}\stackrel{lim}{n\rightarrow\infty}mbox{sin N}

and then?
 
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It's simply that lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} (sin x) does NOT exist.
 
But the integral has an answer, and it's 1!
 
hasan_researc said:
But the integral has an answer, and it's 1!

The last lim you got doesn't exist. The wrong step here is when you changed the variable from x to theta. I guess the upper and lower limits of x are \infty and -\infty, right? The relation between x and theta is: x=Rtan\theta. Since tan is a periodic fuction, tan(theta) cannot be defined if theta=infinity. Thus, you must choose another upper and lower limits for theta.
Hint: there is an infinite number of values for theta so that tan(theta) = infinity.

If you get the right limits, you will find the integral's value is 2 (not 1).
 
hikaru1221 said:
The last lim you got doesn't exist. The wrong step here is when you changed the variable from x to theta. I guess the upper and lower limits of x are \infty and -\infty, right? The relation between x and theta is: x=Rtan\theta. Since tan is a periodic fuction, tan(theta) cannot be defined if theta=infinity.
You're on the right track here, but your argument has a flaw. The OP can undo the substitution and use the original limits of integration, or can find the new limits of integration as you are suggesting. The relationship is x = Rtan(theta). If x = infinity, that implies that Rtan(theta) = infinity, not that theta = infinity. x --> infinity if theta --> pi/2 from the left.
hikaru1221 said:
Thus, you must choose another upper and lower limits for theta.
Hint: there is an infinite number of values for theta so that tan(theta) = infinity.

If you get the right limits, you will find the integral's value is 2 (not 1).

To the OP:
Since the integrand you ended with is cos(theta), an even function, use the symmetry of the function like this:

\int_{-b}^b f(x) dx = 2 \int_0^b f(x) dx
 
But there's still the problem that you're using an improper integral where you should be using an indefinite integral. There shouldn't be any bounds that you're integrating on... You can't just change indefinite to definite like that.
 
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