Solving Periodic Signals: Determine Fund. Period

In summary, the two signals given are x(n) = \cos^3(\frac{\pi(n)}{8}) and x(n) = \cos(\frac{n}{2})\cos(\frac{\pi(n)}{4}). The first signal is periodic with a fundamental period of 16 samples, while the second signal is not periodic. This can be determined by finding the least common multiple of the frequencies of each cosine term and comparing it to the number of samples in the period. The period of cos^3(n\pi/8) is the same as the period of cos(n\pi/8), so the first signal is periodic. However, the frequencies of the cosine terms in the second signal are irrational, making
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Homework Statement


Determine whether or not each of the following signals is periodic if signal is periodic determine the fundamental period (note that these are discrete not continuous signals) Show your solutions
1. [tex] x(n) = \cos^3(\frac{\pi(n)}{8})[/tex]
2. [tex]x(n) = \cos(\frac{n}{2})\cos(\frac{\pi(n)}{4})[/tex]

Homework Equations



a. [tex] f = \frac{\omega}{2\pi}[/tex] when f is irrational it is non periodic when f is rational it is periodic

b. determining the fundamental period requires the least common multiple of all periods

The Attempt at a Solution


1. [tex]= \cos(\frac{n\pi}{8})\cos^2(\frac{n\pi}{8})[/tex]
[tex]= \cos(\frac{n\pi}{8})(1+\cos(\frac{2n\pi}{8}))[/tex]
[tex]= \cos(\frac{n\pi}{8}) + \cos(\frac{n\pi}{8})\cos(\frac{2n\pi}{8})[/tex]
[tex]= \cos(\frac{n\pi}{8} + \frac{1}{2}(\cos(\frac{n\pi}{8}-\frac{n\pi}{4}) + \frac{1}{2}(\cos(\frac{n\pi}{8}+\frac{n\pi}{4})[/tex]
[tex]= \cos(\frac{n\pi}{8} + \frac{1}{2}(\cos(\frac{n\pi}{8})) + \frac{1}{2}(\cos(\frac{3n\pi}{8}))[/tex]
the first cosine: [tex] f = \frac{\omega}{2\pi} = \frac{\frac{\pi}{8}}{2\pi} = \frac{1}{16} [/tex] --- rational ---- periodic
2nd cosine [tex] f = \frac{\omega}{2\pi} = \frac{\frac{\pi}{8}}{2\pi} = \frac{1}{16} [/tex] ---- rational---- periodic
3rd cosine [tex]f = \frac{\omega}{2\pi} = \frac{\frac{3\pi}{8}}{2\pi}} = \frac{3}{16} [/tex]----rational? ---- is this periodic?

now how do i get the least common multiple to get the number of samples the period has since the third cosine is 3/16?
the only problem is i need to find the Least common multiple of the three to find the total number of samples in the period or N = 1/f

N1 = 16, N2 = 16 , N3 = 16/3

k/m=N1/N2 = 16 / (16/3) = 3/1; mN1 = kN2; 1(16) = 3(16/3) ==>> is the total number of sample equal to No = 16 which is the least common multiple of N1, N2 and N3?Number 2.
[tex] x(n) = \cos(\frac{n}{2})\cos(\frac{\pi(n)}{4})[/tex]
[tex]x(n) = \frac{1}{2} (cos(\frac{n}{2} - \frac{\pi(n)}{4}) + cos(\frac{n}{2} - \frac{\pi(n)}{4}) )[/tex]
[tex] f1 = \frac{\omega}{2\pi} = \frac{\frac{2-\pi}{4}}{2\pi}[/tex]<<<< irrational number
[tex] f2 = \frac{\omega}{2\pi} = \frac{\frac{2+\pi}{4}}{2\pi}[/tex]<<<< irrational number
hence it's not periodic

Reference books
DSP by proakis
Schaum's Outline in signals and systems
 
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For number 1, you don't really need to do all that work. [itex]a^3= b^3[/itex] if a= b so as long as [itex]cos(n\pi/8)[/itex] is periodic, [itex]cos^3(n\pi/8)[/itex] is also. The period of [itex]cos^3(n\pi/8)[/itex] is the same as the period of [itex]cos(n\pi/8)[/itex].

Number 2 is correct.
 
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Am i not going to simplify the trigonometric identity in number 1?

because i have another similar problem given in the book:
x[n] = [tex]\cos^2(\frac{n\pi}{8})[/tex]

and the sol'n is
[PLAIN]http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/346/dsphomework1.png
 
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What is a periodic signal?

A periodic signal is a type of signal that repeats itself over time, with the same pattern of variations, at regular intervals.

What is the fundamental period of a periodic signal?

The fundamental period of a periodic signal is the smallest time interval after which the signal repeats itself exactly. In other words, it is the length of one complete cycle of the signal.

How do you determine the fundamental period of a periodic signal?

To determine the fundamental period of a periodic signal, you can plot the signal over time and look for the smallest time interval where the signal repeats itself. Another method is to use mathematical equations and algorithms to analyze the signal and find the fundamental period.

What is the difference between fundamental period and frequency?

The fundamental period is a measure of time, while frequency is a measure of how many complete cycles of a periodic signal occur in one second. The frequency is inversely proportional to the fundamental period, meaning that as the frequency increases, the fundamental period decreases.

Why is it important to determine the fundamental period of a periodic signal?

Determining the fundamental period of a periodic signal is important because it allows us to understand and analyze the behavior of the signal over time. It also helps in predicting future values of the signal and making accurate calculations and measurements.

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