How to find the root of a quadratic formula

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To find the value of K for the equation 2x^2 - 10x + 8 = K to have a repeated root, the discriminant (b² - 4ac) must equal zero. This means adjusting K so that the quadratic has equal roots. For no real roots, K must be chosen such that the discriminant is less than zero. The forum emphasizes that users must demonstrate their attempts at solving the problem before receiving assistance, as complete solutions are not provided to encourage learning. Understanding the discriminant is crucial for both parts of the question regarding roots.
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(A) For what value of K does the equation 2x^2-10x +8 = K have a repeated root? Use the quadratic formula to find the root.

(B) Choose a value for K so the equation has no real roots, Use the quadratic formula to prove that this equation has no real roots for your chosen value for K.

this is a question i was given and to be honest i am stumped, i understand what a root is, but I am unsure of how to find a repeated root. any help is appreciated!
 
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Do you know the quadratic formula? What would have to be the value of b2-4ac to have a repeated root?
 
the formula above is the quadratic formula for both (A) and (B)

y=2x^2-10x+8
 
No, the quadratic formula is a way to solve (i.e., find the solutions of) ax2+bx+c = 0
 
this is the whole question i was given.

2 a) draw the graph of the quadratic y=2x^2-10x+8

2 b) solve the equation 2x^2-10x+8=K when K=0

2 c) For what value of K does the equation 2x^2-10x +8 = K have a repeated root? Use the quadratic formula to find the root.

2 d) Choose a value for K so the equation 2x^2-10x +8 = K has no real roots, Use the quadratic formula to prove that this equation has no real roots for your chosen value for K.

does that help at all?
 
druuuuuuuunnk, you will have to change to soooooooober so that you can think about solving this problem.
 
druuuuuuuunnk said:
this is the whole question i was given.

2 a) draw the graph of the quadratic y=2x^2-10x+8

2 b) solve the equation 2x^2-10x+8=K when K=0

2 c) For what value of K does the equation 2x^2-10x +8 = K have a repeated root? Use the quadratic formula to find the root.

2 d) Choose a value for K so the equation 2x^2-10x +8 = K has no real roots, Use the quadratic formula to prove that this equation has no real roots for your chosen value for K.

does that help at all?

SO have you done part (a) - it would be useful to factorise the quadratic in order to do that.
 
Ok, I see where the confusion is. You might want to look at the part of the link that is called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_equation" .

Then, the question is asking, for what value of K does the quadratic formula give repeated roots?
 
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Check in your textbook for the difference between "a quadratic equation" and "the quadratic formula".
 
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A quadratic can have two roots, or no roots. (Or to put it more exactly: two real roots, or no real roots.)

If the real roots are equal, then this can be referred to has having a repeated root. So all you need to do is determine that value of K which causes there to be zero difference between the two roots.
 
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ok so I've been doing some reading, i now know that i use the quadratic forumla to solve the quadratic equation in part B. i got x=4 and x=1

for part C, do i change the quadratic equation 2x^2-10x+8=K. by this i mean do i need to make it 3x^2-11x+9=K or somthing like that, until i find a equation that has two roots which are the same?

im not going to lie to you guys, once I've done this maths course work i pass my year and i never have to do maths at this level again. I am doing product design at university. its basically just drawing lol.

Im terrible at maths, my uni are making me do a foundation year or maths and physics, they are not my strong points, if you could just tell me the answer i would appriate it, this course works in for tomorrow and its worth 50% of my final grade. if i get 80% of this course work right i pass the year.
 
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druuuuuuuunnk said:
for part C, do i change the quadratic equation 2x^2-10x+8=K. by this i mean do i need to make it 3x^2-11x+9=K or somthing like that, until i find a equation that has two roots which are the same?
No. You move the K to the other side, and let c = 8 - K in the quadratic formula. You'll notice that in order for you to have a repeated root, the expression underneath the square root, b2 - 4ac, must equal 0. Look up discriminant.

druuuuuuuunnk said:
Im terrible at maths, my uni are making me do a foundation year or maths and physics, they are not my strong points, if you could just tell me the answer i would appriate it, this course works in for tomorrow and its worth 50% of my final grade. if i get 80% of this course work right i pass the year.
No, we're not allowed to just give the answers. You need to show the work to us first, and then we help you. That's the forum rules.
 
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druuuuuuuunnk said:
Im terrible at maths, my uni are making me do a foundation year or maths and physics, they are not my strong points, if you could just tell me the answer i would appriate it, this course works in for tomorrow and its worth 50% of my final grade. if i get 80% of this course work right i pass the year.

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it was worth a try :P
 
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Well, it should have occurred to you that people who frequent mathematics sites are probably not going to help someone avoid learning mathematics- and that is what you are saying you want to do.
 
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