Question about formula for natural log

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The discussion centers on a specific formula for the natural logarithm, presented as a limit involving the nth root of x. The user explores various forms of the formula, expressing curiosity about its origins and connections to the exponential function. They derive relationships between the natural logarithm and the exponential function, indicating that the derivative of the logarithm becomes clear through these formulations. The conversation highlights the mathematical interplay between ln(x) and e^x, emphasizing the limit definitions. Overall, the user seeks further insights into these logarithmic expressions and their derivations.
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Any information on the following formula for natural logarithm (I looked in wikipedia and Mathworld but didn't see it). It came from another equation I was working on a bit ago, and I was curious about it as I didn't recall seeing it before (which doesn't mean I haven't), although it reminded me of some equations for e.

\ln{x} =\lim_{n\to\infty} \left[ \left (1- \frac{1}{x^{\frac{1}{n}}} \right) \times n \right ]
For better visibility (bottom of the fraction is the nth root of x):
\ln{x} =\lim_{n\to\infty} \left[ \left (1- \frac{1}{ \sqrt[n]{x}} \right) \times n \right ]

Or yet another form:

\ln{x} =\lim_{n\to\infty} \left[ \left (1- x^{- \frac{1}{n}} \right) \times n \right ]
And I might have answered my own question with this last one... sheesh... anyways, still would like to read about it.
\ln{x} =\lim_{n\to\infty} \left[n- n\times x^{- \frac{1}{n}} \right ]

Makes the derivative readily apparent, ehh? :D
 
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It follows from
e^x =\lim_{n\to\infty} \left (1+\frac{x}{n}\right)^n
 
Thanks, I realized that post-post, right after I reformulated it a last time and powered down the computer. Ended up writing it out on paper and deriving this particular formula for e^x:

x = \lim_{n\to\infty} \left(1- \frac{\ln{x}}{n} \right )^{-n}
which is basically the following reformulated~~~
e^x = \lim_{n\to\infty} \left(1- \frac{x}{n} \right )^{-n}
 
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