Question about formula for natural log

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The discussion centers on the derivation and understanding of the natural logarithm formula, specifically the limit definition of ln{x}. The key formula presented is ln{x} = lim_{n→∞} [(1 - x^{-1/n}) × n], which highlights its relationship to the exponential function e^x = lim_{n→∞} (1 + x/n)^n. The user expresses curiosity about the formula's origins and its implications for derivatives. The conversation emphasizes the mathematical connections between logarithmic and exponential functions.

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Any information on the following formula for natural logarithm (I looked in wikipedia and Mathworld but didn't see it). It came from another equation I was working on a bit ago, and I was curious about it as I didn't recall seeing it before (which doesn't mean I haven't), although it reminded me of some equations for e.

\ln{x} =\lim_{n\to\infty} \left[ \left (1- \frac{1}{x^{\frac{1}{n}}} \right) \times n \right ]
For better visibility (bottom of the fraction is the nth root of x):
\ln{x} =\lim_{n\to\infty} \left[ \left (1- \frac{1}{ \sqrt[n]{x}} \right) \times n \right ]

Or yet another form:

\ln{x} =\lim_{n\to\infty} \left[ \left (1- x^{- \frac{1}{n}} \right) \times n \right ]
And I might have answered my own question with this last one... sheesh... anyways, still would like to read about it.
\ln{x} =\lim_{n\to\infty} \left[n- n\times x^{- \frac{1}{n}} \right ]

Makes the derivative readily apparent, ehh? :D
 
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It follows from
e^x =\lim_{n\to\infty} \left (1+\frac{x}{n}\right)^n
 
Thanks, I realized that post-post, right after I reformulated it a last time and powered down the computer. Ended up writing it out on paper and deriving this particular formula for e^x:

x = \lim_{n\to\infty} \left(1- \frac{\ln{x}}{n} \right )^{-n}
which is basically the following reformulated~~~
e^x = \lim_{n\to\infty} \left(1- \frac{x}{n} \right )^{-n}
 

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