How to derive the velocity addition formula

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The discussion focuses on deriving the velocity addition formula v = (v' + u) / (1 + v'u/c^2) using specific equations related to time and length in special relativity. The user attempts to manipulate equations to express proper time and dilated time but encounters difficulties in simplifying the algebra, particularly in eliminating variables like L and proper length. They express frustration over the complexity of the calculations and consider resubmitting for further assistance. The conversation highlights the challenges of applying relativistic concepts and the need for clarity in algebraic manipulation. Ultimately, the user seeks guidance to navigate through the derivation process effectively.
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Homework Statement


Derive the formula v= (v'+u)/(1+v'u/c^2) the velcoty addition formula using the below formulas?


Homework Equations


1. vt1=L+ut1
2. (proper time)=(proper length)/v'+(proper length)/c
3. ct2=L-ut2
4. (dilated time)= (proper time)/(sqrt(1-v^2/c^2))
5. L=(proper length)sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)


The Attempt at a Solution


Ok so here is what I did I solved equation 1 above for t1 and got t1=(L+ut1)/v and equation 3 for t2 and got t2=(L-ut2)/c. I then added them together to get (dilated time or delta t)=(L+ut1)/v+(L-ut2)/c. Then I used equation 4 to get ((L+ut1)/v+(L-ut2)/c)sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)=(proper time). Then I set that equal ti equation 2 ((L+ut1)/v+(L-ut2)/c)sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)= (proper length)/v'+(proper length)/c. Then (proper length)=L/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) and this is where I get lost in my algebra I can't seem to get rid of L and (proper length) in order to find the correct formula?
 
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whoops I think I caught some of my errors when I solved for t1 and t2 I forgot the other side?
 
ok after reworking a bit I am still lost but 1 step closer I think. (Proper length)/v'+(proper length)/c=sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)(L/(c+u)+L/(v-u)) I have then tried using the length contraction on this but it gets very complicated uggg.
 
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