Solve Acceleration of Inclined Plane Given z,P,A

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The discussion focuses on calculating the acceleration of an inclined plane with a mass on top, given variables z, P, and angle A, under frictionless conditions. The user initially derives the normal force and sets up equations based on free body diagrams, ultimately arriving at an expression for acceleration. The final answer presented is 2zgtanA/(z+P), correcting earlier misunderstandings about vertical acceleration. Participants suggest considering different frames of reference, such as a non-inertial frame, to simplify the problem. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying forces and understanding the dynamics involved in the system.
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Homework Statement


a mass z is held on an incline plane with mass P. when the the masses are released, both objects begin to move and accelerate. find accell of the incline plane

GIVEN: z,P,angle A, surfaces are frictionless

solve in terms of these variables.

Homework Equations



f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


i chose my positive x direction along the ground surface below the incline plane, toward the direction of its motion.

so first i solved for the small mass on top the normal force, which is the force which applied onto the incline plane by the small mass.

fnety=0=FNcosA - zg
FN= zg/cosA

now when i do the FBD of the incline plane the forces acting on it, are the normal (FN) which gives it an unbalanced force in the +X direction.

so i get the expression

fnetx= (z+P)a=FNsinA

subbing in the FN,i get

a= zgtanA/(z+P)

is this correct? if not can you tell me where i am going wrong.
 
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The small mass accelerates along the y direction. So Fnet is not zero along this direction.
 
Ahh I see..
Fnety=zg=FN-zgcosA
FN=2zg/cosA

Ans; 2zgtanA/(z+P)
 
The vertical acceleration of the small object is not g. It's not falling freely.
 
nasu said:
The vertical acceleration of the small object is not g. It's not falling freely.

would it make it more simple if i chose a different frame of reference.
 
You could work in the non-inertial frame of the moving inclined plane. But I am not sure it makes simpler. Depends how it is easier to visualize for you. In the inertial frame attached to the ground or in the moving frame.
 
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