Calculating Coal Usage for a 1000 MW Steam Power Plant

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The discussion revolves around calculating the coal usage for a 1000 MW steam power plant, focusing on the thermal efficiency of steam engines operating in pairs. Participants are examining the relationship between heat input and work output, as well as the implications of Carnot efficiency on the problem.

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  • Participants are attempting to relate the operating temperatures of the steam engines to their efficiencies and are questioning how to derive actual values from given efficiencies and temperature ratios. There is also discussion about using the definition of efficiency to connect work output and heat input.

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Several participants have offered insights into the calculations needed to determine the thermal efficiency of the engines and how to apply these to find the coal requirement. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between work, heat input, and efficiency, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are working under the assumption that both engines operate at 60% of their Carnot efficiency and are using specific formulas related to thermal efficiency and energy conservation. There is a focus on the need for accurate values for heat input and work output to solve the problem.

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At a steam power plant, steam engines work in pairs; the rejected heat from the first is the heat input to the second. The operating temperatures of the first are 670 C and 440 C. The operating temperatures of the second are 440 C and 290 C. Assume both engines work at 60% of their Carnot efficiency. The heat of combustion of coal is 2.8 x 10^7 J/kg. How many kg of coal must be burned per day if the power output of the plant is to be 1000 MW?

I know that the QL of the first engine is the QH of the second engine, but how do I get the actual values with only the efficiency and the ratio of the temperatures?
 
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physicsss said:
I know that the QL of the first engine is the QH of the second engine, but how do I get the actual values with only the efficiency and the ratio of the temperatures?

You have more than just the ratio of temperatures, you have their actual values. Does this formula look familiar?

[tex]\epsilon=\frac{T_H-T_C}{T_H}[/tex]

That's the efficiency of a perfect Carnot cycle. Using this and what they gave you in the text, you should be able to figure out the efficiency of the machines themselves.

Once you have that, it's just a matter of using the definition of efficiency to get your answer. Here's another formula that might come in handy

[tex]\epsilon=\frac{|W|}{|Q_H|}[/tex]

Remember, efficiency is just the ratio of the energy you get out to what you put in.
 
Alright, the both engines operate at 60% of their Carnot efficiency. You know this to be equal to:
[tex]\eta_{th,C}=1-\frac{T_c}{T_h}[/tex]
You know the hot and cold sink temperatures, so you can find the actual thermal efficiency of the engines by multiplying the Carnot efficiency by .6. You also know the thermal efficiency to be defined as:
[tex]\eta_{th}=\frac{w}{q_h}[/tex]
You know the power output you want to be 1000MW, which is 1000MJ in one second, or 8.64*10^7J per day. This is w. All you need to do is find an expression for the amount of work that comes from a given amount of heat input. To do this, you need to know how much energy is rejected by the first engine and put into the second. This comes from conservation of energy. It is just the difference between the heat supplied and the work performed.
 
Astronuc said:
Supplementing what others have written -

Wtotal = W1 + W2, and

Wi = QH,i - QL,i

see also - http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/carnot.html#c1
Correction on this.

Wi = QH,i - QL,i is the ideal case with eff = 100%

if eff. < 100%, the Wi = [itex]\eta_i[/itex] (QH,i - QL,i), where [itex]\eta_i[/itex] is the efficiency.
 

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