Inertial Definition and 486 Threads
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Velocity change by force in one and two inertial frame confusion
Hi, I just finished class and my professor was writing some of Newton's Laws on the board and derived some equations. We ended up with: V(Δt)=FΔt (this is for velocity in first inertial frame V(2Δt)=2FΔt (this is for velocity in second inertial frame Then he went and got the position in...- JordanGo
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- Change Confusion Force Frame Inertial Inertial frame Velocity
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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What Are the Major Properties of Inertial Forces?
Hi everyone ! Which are the major properties of inertial forces ? -
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Inertial and Gravitational Mass
Hi everyone! In an university examination it was asked to:"Explain the difference between inertial and gravitational mass" but my physics book is not very exhaustive on these differences. Which could it be a precise answer to this question ? -
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Understanding Inertial reference frames
Hi to all, I am a new one to this physics forum and i have a doubt regarding Inertial Reference frames. In an article of IRF, it is given as "There is no absolute inertial reference frame, meaning that there is no state of velocity which is special in the universe." Can anybody please...- saipathudut
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- Frames Inertial Inertial reference frames Reference Reference frames
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Locally inertial coordinates on geodesics
It's a standard fact of GR that at a given point in space-time, we can construct a coordinate system such that the metric tensor takes the form of Minkowski spacetime and its first derivatives vanish. Equivalently, we can make the Christoffel symbols vanish at point. Moreover, the fact that, in...- VantagePoint72
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- Coordinates Geodesics Inertial
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Relation between binding energy and inertial mass
This question has been bugging me for a while now. I roughly understand how the Higgs mechanism gives elementary particles their rest mass and I also understand that gravity couples to all forms of energy, including binding energy in a nucleus or atom. I also know most of the mass of a system... -
Generalized momentum and Hamiltonian over a non inertial reference frame
Hi there. I need help to work this out. A particle with mass m is studied over a rotating reference frame, which rotates along the OZ axis with angular velocity \dot\phi=\omega, directed along OZ. It is possible to prove that the potential (due to inertial forces) can be written as: V=\omega...- Telemachus
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- Frame generalized Hamiltonian Inertial Inertial reference frame Momentum Reference Reference frame
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Velocity in Inertial Frames: Lorentz Dilation and Contraction
i was looking at the lorentz dilation and contractions for SR. My books says they are \grave{l}=l\gamma and that \grave{t}=\frac{t}{\gamma} .what i don't understand is that the velocity in the unprimed system is then \frac{l}{t} but in the primed system its \frac{l\gamma^{2}}{t} which is not...- storm4438
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- Frames Inertial Velocity
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Newton's law in non inertial frame.
Please explain the concept of pseudo forces by considering an example of two cars say A and B, accelerating in the same direction. How will Newton's law applied to the man in car B as noted by the man in car A differs from that of the man standing on the earth? And how will the man in car A...- Phyman1109
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- Frame Inertial Inertial frame Law Newton's law Non inertial frame
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- Forum: Mechanics
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Basic question about inertial reference frame
I have no background in relativity. Recently I started reading some introduction to special relativity in Griffith's EM book, where he vaguely defined an inertial reference frame as one in which Newton's first law holds. Now according to this definition, does such frame exist in nature? On...- sunjin09
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- Frame Inertial Inertial reference frame Reference Reference frame
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Is the inertial mass of light relative?
By the equivalence principle, the gravitational mass of light is its inertial mass, which it has because it has momentum. Light can impart some of its the momentum to massive objects, upon which it will lose energy, which is manifested by its frequency (the basic principle behind doppler...- GW Leibniz
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- Inertial Inertial mass Light Mass Relative
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Need help understanding inertial frames of reference
Need help understanding inertial frames of reference! I'm doing an A2 physics unit on special relativity (AQA) and am really confused about this, but I only want to get the idea so don't go to deep please :) I understand that a frame of reference is an area which is fixed relative to...- BomboshMan
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- Frames Frames of reference Inertial Reference
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Non inertial or inertial reference frame?
Homework Statement Specify and explain whether the following is an inertial or non-inertial observer: An observer is placed on a rock between Andromeda and the Milky Way. Homework Equations N/a The Attempt at a Solution So here is my understanding, the observer would be situated...- Lengalicious
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- Frame Inertial Inertial reference frame Reference Reference frame
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Can we extend our inertial frame globally?
People tell me that we cannot extend our inertial frame, as defined in special relativity, across the Universe because that would be in violation of general relativity. The problem is that general relativity says that space-time can be curved whereas a global inertial frame assumes flat... -
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How inertial frame of reference differs from non-inertial frame?
We know that we can't say whether we are at rest or uniformly moving if we're in a einstein cage..but if the same medium is accelerating/decelerating can we being inside(and can't see outside) claim abt state of cage..?I ve read that a non-inertial can be converted to inertial by incorporating a...- aditya23456
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- Frame Frame of reference Inertial Inertial frame Non-inertial frame Reference
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Velocities in inertial and rotating frames of reference
Hi, I have a couple of questions about velocities in inertial and rotating frames of reference, related by the following equation: \mathbf{v_i} \ \stackrel{\mathrm{def}}{=}\ \frac{d\mathbf{r}}{dt} = \left( \frac{d\mathbf{r}}{dt} \right)_{\mathrm{r}} + \boldsymbol\Omega \times...- ryan88
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- Frames Frames of reference Inertial Reference Rotating Rotating frames
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- Forum: General Math
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Inertial adn non-inertial frames
i know these topics are discussed many times and i have read many of them but still have a doubt. Suppose a car is accelerating and there is an object and a man in the car. Object is ofcourse at rest with respect to man. The man does not know if the car is accelerating or not - he just sees... -
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4-vector law of motion in different inertial frames
Newton's second law of motion is given in Minkowski space by \bar{F}=m(c\gamma\dot{\gamma}, \gamma\dot{\gamma}\tilde{v}+\gamma^{2}\tilde{a}) where \dot{\gamma}=\frac{d\gamma}{dt}=\frac{\gamma^{3}}{c^{2}}\tilde{v}\cdot\tilde{a} and \tilde{v}(t) and \tilde{a}(t) the 3-velocity and...- Wox
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- 4-vector Frames Inertial Law Motion
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Magnetic force in a moving inertial reference frame
A charged particle is placed next to a current-carrying wire. The wire produces a magnetic field, but if the particle is at rest, the field exerts no force on it. However, in a different inertial reference frame moving at speed v parallel to the wire, the particle is seen to be in motion, and so...- BucketOfFish
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- Force Frame Inertial Inertial reference frame Magnetic Magnetic force Reference Reference frame
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- Forum: Electromagnetism
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Torque in a non inertial reference frame
Hi, This is partly inspired by the questions in the thread about normal forces on a cornering car but I thought I'd post here instead of mix that thread up with my question. So suppose we have a biker leaning into a corner. There are the normal force and the force of friction which act at the...- McLaren Rulez
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- Frame Inertial Inertial reference frame Reference Reference frame Torque
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- Forum: Mechanics
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Why do Newton's laws only apply in inertial reference frames?
Hello, I am having difficulty understanding the concept of Newton's first law only applying in an inertial reference frame, or a frame that is at constant velocity, however, apparently the 1st law no longer applies if the reference frame is accelerating. Can anyone give me some sort of concrete...- member 392791
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- Frames Inertial Inertial reference frames Reference Reference frames
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- Forum: Mechanics
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Calculating Time Interval and Speed of Inertial Clock
Homework Statement In the Home Frame, two events are observed to occur with a spatial separation of 12ns and a time coordination separation of 24ns. A)An inertial clock travels between these events in such a manner as to be present at both events. What timer interval does this clock read...- rh23
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- Clock Inertial Interval Speed Time Time interval
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Problems with Inertial Reference Frames
The initial presentation of Newton’s Laws of Motion (NLM) to students often proceeds as follow: 1. The 3 laws are presented, 2. The caveat that the laws are only valid in Inertial Reference Frames (IRFs) is (sheepishly) mentioned, 3. An attempt is made to define an IRF, and 4. Some examples... -
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Origin in Inertial Frame for Spin-Orbit Coupling?
Hello, I've seen spin orbit coupling being explained by going to the rest frame of the electron and noting that the proton is then a moving charge and hence has a magnetic field, which interacts with the spin of the electron, effectively coupling the spin and angular momentum of the electron...- nonequilibrium
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- Coupling Frame Inertial Inertial frame Origin Spin-orbit
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Inertial frames and related predictions
As a result of observations made over many, many years, physicists have inferred that: "No experimental test provides any way to distinguish an inertial frame from another." This negative form of the statement is important, as it is a prediction which can be tested experimentally and thus...- spaghetti3451
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- Frames Inertial
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Does time period of SHM vary with frame(inertial and non inertial)?
Does time period of SHM vary with frame(inertial and non inertial)?? Homework Statement There is an SHM. First observer is watching it from inertial frame of refrence and secodn is from non inertial will there any change of time period for both observer. Homework Equations just think...- vkash
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- Inertial Period Shm Time Time period
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Do our inertial frames rotate with the Milky Way?
In a 1925 paper, Erwin Schrödinger mentions that "our inertial systems are free of rotation precisely with respect to our stellar system", instead of being "anchored...in much more distant stellar masses". Is this really the case? If so, this suggests that the total gravitational potential...- Vincentius
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- Frames Inertial Milky way Rotate
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- Forum: Astronomy and Astrophysics
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How to Implement Inertial Navigation System Equations in MATLAB?
Dear :), could some one please guide me in the right direction to answer the following questions: 1) using MATLAB, implement the differential equations that describe the evolution with time of along-track , cross-track and vertical position. (Inertial Navigation System). and 2) for a...- Pieter-S
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- Inertial System
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- Forum: Engineering and Comp Sci Homework Help
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How can Higgs field explain proton's inertial resistance to acceleration?
If most of the mass/energy of a proton is due to the kinetic energy of its quarks and gluons, rather than interaction with the Higgs field, then how can we explain its inertial mass, i.e. its resistance to acceleration, as being due to a drag induced by the Higgs field? Alternatively imagine...- johne1618
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- Acceleration Explain Field Higgs Higgs field Inertial Resistance
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- Forum: High Energy, Nuclear, Particle Physics
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Do the electrons have inertial mass?
Hello there! According to quantum physics, do the electrons have inertial mass? I read somewhere electrons were an amount of energy, with no mass at all. I think I'm confused about the concept of "mass" since I know two, the one they taught me at school, which I'm considering as inertial mass...- FranciscoAlm
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- Electrons Inertial Inertial mass Mass
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Discussion of Inertial Frames of Reference
Post any thoughts or ideas here.- Casey Miller
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- Discussion Frames Frames of reference Inertial Reference
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Why extremal aging, not just maximal? (for an inertial body in spacetime)
One can use the Principle of Extremal Aging to calculate the path of a freely moving body (in an inertial frame not subject to any forces) in spacetime, curved or flat. Why extremal? Why not just maximal? All the examples I know of involve maximum proper time for a freely moving body. For...- Colin Mitch
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- aging Body Inertial Spacetime
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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SR, Inertial frames, Movement, Testing
I wanted to understand something about Inertial frames especially as they are talked about in SR. It appears that the laws of physics should hold the same in them. Now I understand that inertial frames only involve things moving relative to each other and moving in constant speed so you can...- goodabouthood
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- Frames Inertial Movement Sr Testing
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Can any one explain Schuler cycle in Inertial Navigation System
Can anyone please explain schuler cycle, please don not start explaining with same old pendulum with the length of radius of Earth stuff. why is it required ? what is that all about ?- gkraju
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- Cycle Explain Inertial System
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- Forum: Aerospace Engineering
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Difference between the inertial and gravitational mass
I'm trying to learn what is the difference between the inertial and gravitational mass. According to: http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae305.cfm and https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=147282 there is practically no difference (as stated by the Equivalence principle)... -
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Why is inertial mass not an observable in QM?
In classical mechanics, I can measure the inertial mass of a particle by measuring force and acceleration: m=F/a. In QM, this equation only holds for expectation values <F> and <a>. Does this lead to the fact that inertial mass is not an observable? Is there a deeper underlying principle which...- kith
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- Inertial Inertial mass Mass Observable Qm
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Inertial reference frames and Newton's Laws of Motion
The first law of motion says that it takes force to accelerate something. The second law of motion says that F=ma. So now my teacher says that the first law is for inertial reference frames, while the second is for non-inertial reference frames. This really annoys me because I don't...- titaniumpen
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- Frames Inertial Inertial reference frames Laws Laws of motion Motion Newton's laws Reference Reference frames
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- Forum: Mechanics
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Why so many definitions of an inertial frame?
A Newtonian inertial frame is one where objects obey Newton's first law. Schutz (A first course in general relativity) says an inertial frame cannot be constructed in a gravitational field because it's then impossible to synchronize the frame's clocks? For the same reason an inertial frame...- peter46464
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- Definitions Frame Inertial Inertial frame
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Are You an Inertial Observer on a Constantly Moving Turntable?
An inertial frame is one which is not accelerating. i.e if I'm sitting in an accelerating bus or plane I'm not an inertial observer however if I am in a bus or train traveling at a constant velocity i.e zero acceleration then I am an inertial observer. One thing Id like to ask here is that...- Jadenag
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- Frames Inertial Inertial reference frames Reference Reference frames
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Inertial frame of reference of light speed (And beyond)
Hi All! I found discussions on this here while researching the subject to see if anyone else has attempted to explore the subject. I saw that several people asked questions pertaining to this, but the question was never really answered. It seemed unanswerable. While many discussions of...- Eric B
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- Frame Frame of reference Inertial Inertial frame Light Light speed Reference Speed
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Pendulum on Pendulum, velocity in non inertial frame
Homework Statement A double pendulum consists of two particles of equal mass m suspended by massless rods of equal length l. Assuming that all motion is in a vertical plane: 1. Find the Lagrangian of this system. 2. then find the equations of motion and, 3. linearize these equations...- sede
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- Frame Inertial Inertial frame Non inertial frame Pendulum Velocity
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Is the train an inertial reference frame if luggage starts sliding forward?
Homework Statement You are in a train traveling on a horizontal track and notice that a iece of luggage starts to slide toward the front of the train. from this observation you can conclude that this train is not an inertial reference frame because it is slowing down. Homework Equations...- physicsgurl12
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- Frame Inertial Train
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Acceleration measured in another inertial frame?
Suppose, in the first case, that an object (initially at rest in frame S) accelerates, for whatever reason upward, with a force F. Let M be the relativistic mass of the object. The force measured in frame S is relativistically given by: F_s=γ^2...- sudhirking
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- Acceleration Frame Inertial Inertial frame
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Test your knowledge of inertial forces
We have had several threads lately discussing the nature of inertia and inertial forces. Here is a practical exanmple for open discussion. Take a flexible bar and closely thread several masses onto it. Clamp both ends. Arrange a disturbance to provide a flexing of the bar. This will... -
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Definition of local inertial frame
I have a question I wanted to clear up. According to the definition of a "local inertial" frame in GR, you must use a coordinate system that locally looks Cartesian, right? I mean if you had a coordinate system with a basis that wasn't orthogonal, then it would not be considered a local inertial...- eudo
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- Definition Frame Inertial Inertial frame Local
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Lorenz transformations for two parallel inertial systems
Thanks for reading! Homework Statement I have been given a proof for the lorentz transformations (which I only partly understand) that relied on the two relativity postulates (equivalence of inertial systems and the speed of light being constant) for the case of two standard inertial...- Tomer
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- Inertial Lorenz Parallel Systems Transformations
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Navier Stokes Equation Derivation and Inertial Forces
Hi I was reading Introduction to Fluid Mechanics by Nakayama and Boucher and I got lost in their derivation of the Navier Stokes Theorem. They basically started out with a differential of fluid with dimensions dx, dy, and b. Then they say that the force acting on it F = (F_x, F_y) is F_x...- Red_CCF
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- Derivation Forces Inertial Navier stokes Navier stokes equation Stokes
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- Forum: General Engineering
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Studying Relativity: Speed Limit of c in All Inertial Frames?
How I studied relativity, we postulated that a particle traveling at c in one inertial frame travels at c in all inertial frame. But now looking through a book, I see that they just postulate that all laws of physics are same in all inertial frames, and that there is a speed limit (c). However...- mmmboh
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- Frames Inertial Limit Relativity Speed
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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A basic doubt (about inertial frames)
Hi This question is taken from the book Classical mechanics by Gregory. Please clear this doubt TIA ------------- Suppose that a reference frame fixed to the Earth is exactly inertial. Which of the following are then inertial frames ? A frame fixed to a motor car which is (i) moving... -
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Speed of light in non inertial frames
sorry to bring this up again, i have just started special relativity and the constancy of c is a bit confusing, i get how c is the same in all inertial frames but what about accelerating frames? do observers in acceleration still see c as a constant? i have seen many forum posts and they always...- obnoxiousris
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- Frames Inertial Light Speed Speed of light
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity