Do the electrons have inertial mass?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of inertial mass in relation to electrons, exploring the distinctions between different types of mass as understood in quantum physics and relativity. Participants address the confusion surrounding mass and energy, particularly in the context of electrons and photons.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the concept of mass, noting they have encountered the idea that electrons are amounts of energy with no mass.
  • Another participant clarifies that electrons are indeed massive particles, providing their rest mass value.
  • A different participant asserts that electrons have inertial mass, suggesting that the term "mass" is often misunderstood due to its small value compared to protons and neutrons.
  • One participant introduces a relativistic formula for mass, indicating that at low speeds, it resembles inertial mass.
  • Another participant challenges the notion of mass, stating that in modern physics, mass is often considered as energy divided by the square of the speed of light, emphasizing the distinction between invariant mass and energy.
  • A later reply indicates that the original poster has gained a better understanding of the differences between the two types of mass and expresses interest in further research on related topics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing views on the interpretation of mass in relation to electrons, with some asserting that electrons have inertial mass while others emphasize the distinction between mass and energy. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conceptual clarity of mass in modern physics.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of mass and energy, as well as the assumptions underlying the interpretations of relativistic physics. Some mathematical steps and concepts remain unexplored or unclear.

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Hello there!
According to quantum physics, do the electrons have inertial mass? I read somewhere electrons were an amount of energy, with no mass at all. I think I'm confused about the concept of "mass" since I know two, the one they taught me at school, which I'm considering as inertial mass and the one on relativity that is related to energy, right?
(Sorry if I'm saying something stupid, I'm sixteen and I actually am new here and the knowledge I have about quantum physics and so on is due to my own research.)
Anyway, thanks for the help.
 
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Hi, welcome to PF!

I read somewhere electrons were an amount of energy, with no mass at all

Isn't quite true, perhaps you're thinking of a photon? Electrons are a massive particle, with a rest mass of about 9.10938×10^-31 kg
 
Yes, they have inertial mass :)

Often is said they have no mass cause it's so small compared with neutrons and protons.

Relative mass is


mr = mi / \sqrt{1 - v²/c²}

with v = velocity, c = light of speed
As you see for low speed this is the kinda the same as inertial mass :)
 
It cannot be stressed enough that the quantity you give as "mass" is not mass in the modern sense (if you assume a scientific achievement as "modern" although it has been obtained over 100 years ago) but Energy (divided by c^2).

In relativistic physics mass means the invariant mass of an object, i.e., a scalar quantity while energy is the time component of the energy-momentum four-vector.
 
Got it! Thank you all :)
I spent some time researching the difference between the two masses and with what you said here and with what I've read, I think I understood it.
I really meant electron e.bar.goum , but since you spoke of photons, I'll do some more research about them just for the fun of learning :)
 

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