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Variation of parameter VS Undetermined Coefficients
TL;DR Summary: Variation of parameter VS Undetermined Coefficients Hi all, Suppose we want to solve the following ODE 2y''+y'-y=x+7 with two different methods: undetermined coefficients and variation of parameters. The solutions to the homogeneous problem are given by y_1(x)=exp(-x) and...- Davidian
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- Differential equations Undetermined coefficients Variation of parameters
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ODE question: Understanding a step in the solution
Homework Statement Hi there, I don't nee help with solving a question, so much as understanding a step in the provided worked solution. It's using variation of parameters to solve the ode y''+ y = g(t). I've attached the steps in the picture file, and the bit after the word 'Now' what are they...- Bonnie
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- Ode Variation of parameters
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Variation of Parameters to solve a second order ODE
Homework Statement The question I am working on is the one in the file attached. Homework Equations y = u1y1 + u2y2 : u1'y1 + u2'y2 = 0 u1'y1' + u2'y2' = g(t) The Attempt at a Solution I think I have got part (i) completed, with y1 = e3it and y2 = e-3it. This gives a general solution to the...- Bonnie
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- Differential equation Ode Parameters Second order Second order ode Variation Variation of parameters
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What is the general solution for a DE involving cosh and sinh?
Homework Statement Solve the DE by variation of parameters: y'' - y = cosh(x) Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution I got m = 1 and m = -1 so y = c_1e^x + c_2e^{-x} + y_p y_p = u_1e^x + u_2e^{-x} The wonksian gave me -2 so u_1' = \frac{\begin{vmatrix} 0 & e^{-x} \\ cosh(x)...- Rijad Hadzic
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- Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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Solving Systems of Inhomogeneous Linear ODEs
Homework Statement Determine the y_particular solution Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I've tried this for hours but still don't get the correct value. This is what I get: The question is the same as the one I found from...- terryds
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I What is the significance of systematic redshift and Mg II in astrophysics?
Hi everyone, I am new to observations and observational terms! I am reading the paper "constraining the time variation of the fine-structure constant" by Srianand et. al in the section "constraining alpha with QSO absorption lines" there is a sentence saying "... rest wavelengths of MG II ...- shadishacker
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- fine structure constant redshift systematic variation of parameters
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MHB -242.17.8 Solve y''-10y'+25y&=2e^{5x} by variation of parameters.
$\tiny{242.17.8}$ 2000 $\textrm{Solve the given equation by variation of parameters.}$ \begin{align*}\displaystyle y''-10y'+25y&=2e^{5x}\\ \end{align*} $\textrm{the homogeneous equation:}$ \begin{align*}\displaystyle x^2-10x+25&=0\\ (x-5)^2&=0\\ x&=5\\...- karush
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Using variation of parameters to derive a general solution?
Homework Statement "By choosing the lower limit of integration in Eq. (28) in the text as the initial point ##t_0##, show that ##Y(t)## becomes ##Y(t)=\int_{t_0}^t(\frac{y_1(s)y_2(t)-y_t(t)y_2(s)}{y_1(s)y_2'(s)-y_1'(s)y_2(s)})g(s)ds## Show that ##Y(t)## is a solution of the initial value...- Eclair_de_XII
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- Derive General General solution Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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A Wronskian- variation of Params Problem
Homework Statement y''-4y'+4y=(12e^2x)/(x^4) I am trying to solve this differential equation. I know you would use the variation of parameters method, and I am trouble with the wronskian. My solution manual doesn't actually use a wronskian so I can't verify my work Homework EquationsThe...- Cocoleia
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- Differential equation Variation Variation of parameters Wronskian
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Variation of parameters: where is my mistake?
Homework Statement Use the method of variation of parameters to find a particular solution Homework Equations https://flic.kr/p/NqhtyQ The Attempt at a Solution https://flic.kr/p/NicCbN [/B] Can some find my mistake? The answer is just suplosed to be - 2/3te^-t[/B]- mmont012
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- Mistake Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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Solve for the solution of the differential equation
Homework Statement Solve for the solution of the differential equation and use the method of variation of parameters. x`` - x = (e^t) + t Homework Equations [/B] W= (y2`y1)-(y2y1`) v1 = integral of ( g(t) (y1) ) / W v2 = integral of ( g(t) (y2) ) / W The Attempt at a Solution [/B] yc= c1...- Kanashii
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- Differential Differential equation Integral Ode Variation of parameters Wronskian
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A Variation of Parameters for System of 1st order ODE
Kreyszig Advanced Engineering Mathematics shows the variation of parameter method for a system of first order ODE: \underline{y}' = \underline{A}(x)\underline{y} + \underline{g}(x) The particular solution is: \underline{y}_p = \underline{Y}(x)\underline{u}(x) where \underline{Y}(x) is the...- hotvette
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- Ode Parameters System Variation Variation of parameters
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Variation of parameters - i have different particular soluti
i was trying to get a particular solution of a 3rd order ODE using the variation of parameters method the homogeneous solution is yh = c1 e-x + c2 ex + c3 e2x the particular solution is yp=y1u1+y2u2+y3u3 as u1=∫ (w1 g(x) /w) dx , u2=∫ (w2 g(x) /w) dx , u3=∫ (w3 g(x) /w) dx w =...- omar yahia
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General Solution from Particular Solution
Just a question about the theory of solutions to differential equations? Given a second order differential equation and two particular solutions y1 and y2, what is the best way to find the general solution? i.e variation of parameters or something else- Just_some_guy
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- Calculus Diff eq General General solution Particular solution Variation of parameters
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MHB How to Find a General Solution Using Variation of Parameters?
Use the variation of parameters method to find a general solution of $x^{2}y''+xy'-9y=48x^{5}$ $m^{2}-9=0$ $(m+3)(m-3)=0$ $m=3,-3$ $y_{h}=c_{1}x^{-3}+c_{2}x^{3}$ $W=6/x$ Don't really know how to do wronskian with latex so i didnt include the steps. But i need help with the rest of this. i...- ineedhelpnow
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How Do I Solve a Second Order ODE with Non-Constant Coefficients?
Homework Statement OK, this differential equation was technically created by me, because i need to clear my doubts. Y'' + sqrt(X)*Y' + X^3*Y=3sin(x) and actually just any initial conditions as long as the solution is something i can understand, let me expand my doubt further. I've never solved...- Remixex
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- Differential Differential equation Variation of parameters
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Variation of parameters (1st order)
Homework Statement Find the general solution of the following equation: u(t): u' = u/t + 2t Homework Equations y' + p(x)y = Q(x)....(1) yeI = ∫ dx eIQ(x) + constant.....(2) The Attempt at a Solution I rearranged the equation to give: u' - u/t = 2t Then I considered the following...- j3dwards
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- Differentiation First order differential Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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How Does Changing the Right-Hand Side of the Matrix Affect the ODE Solution?
Given a ODE like this: y''(t) - (a + b) y'(t) + (a b) y(t) = x(t) The general solution is: y(t) = A exp(a t) + B exp(b t) + u(t) exp(a t) + v(t) exp(b t) So, for determine u(t) and v(t), is used the method of variation of parameters: \begin{bmatrix} u'(t)\\ v'(t)\\ \end{bmatrix} =...- Bruno Tolentino
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MHB Use Variation of Parameters to find a particular solution
Can someone verify that my answer is correct ? Thanks in advance. Use Variation of Parameters to find a particular solution to $y'' - y = e^t$ Solution: $y_p = \frac{1}{2}te^t - \frac{1}{4} e^t$- shamieh
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- Parameters Particular solution Variation Variation of parameters
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A few queries on the variation of parameters method
I've been reviewing my knowledge on the technique of variation of parameters to solve differential equations and have a couple of queries that I'd like to clear up (particularly for 2nd order inhomogeneous ODEs), if possible. The first is that, given the complementary solution...- "Don't panic!"
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- Calculus Differential equations Method Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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Solve sine^x Variation of Parameters: y"+3y'+2y
Homework Statement Solve by variation of parameters: y" + 3y' + 2y = sinex Homework Equations Finding the complimentary yields: yc = c1e-x + c2e-2x The Attempt at a Solution I set up the Wronskians and got: μ1 = ∫e-2xsin(ex)dx μ2 = -∫e-xsin(ex)dx The problem is that I have no idea how to...- Timberhead
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- Sine integral Variation of parameters Wronskian
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How can I use variation of parameters to solve this equation?
Homework Statement $$y'' - 2y = x + 1$$ Homework Equations $$ y_{o} = Ae^{√(2)x} + Be^{-√(2)x} $$ $$ v_{1}'e^{√(2)x} + v_{2}'e^{-√(2)x}\equiv 0 $$ $$ √(2)v_{1}'e^{√(2)x}-√(2) - v_{2}'e^{-√(2)x} = x + 1 $$ The Attempt at a Solution $$ v_{2}' = \frac{x+1}{-2√(2)e^{-√(2)x}} $$ $$...- vanceEE
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Finding general solution to Euler equation via variation of parameters
Homework Statement The problem is attached as TheProblemAndSolution.png, and everything is typewritten, so it should be easily legible (but you will likely need to zoom into read the text since the image's height is significantly larger than its width). Homework Equations Differential...- s3a
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- Euler General General solution Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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Variation of parameters- 2nd order linear equation
Homework Statement solve 4y''-4y'+y=16et/2 Homework Equations v1= -∫ y2g/w v2= ∫ y1g/w The Attempt at a Solution http://imgur.com/gxXlfdH the correct answer is 2t^2 e^(t/2) instead of what i have though, i am not sure what i am doing wrong?- hahaha158
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- 2nd order Linear Linear equation Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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Y'' + y = f(x) - Variation of Parameters?
y'' + y = f(x) -- Variation of Parameters? Homework Statement Use variation of parameters to solve ##y'' + y = f(x), y(0) = y'(0) = 0.##Homework Equations A description of the method is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variation_of_parametersThe Attempt at a Solution The complementary...- FeDeX_LaTeX
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- Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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MHB What is the general solution for a differential equation with a secant term?
I was given the problem, "Find the general solution of the given differential equation." \(y^{\prime\prime}+9y=9\sec^2(3t)\) My work as follows, please let me know if this is correct and where to go from here. I have hit a roadblock of sorts. \(y^{\prime\prime}+9y=9\sec^2(3t)\)...- alane1994
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Matrix Inversion for Variation of Parameters
I am working on the following problem: Can someone please show or explain the steps to invert the phi matrix? I've given it a few tries, but I can't reach what the book has for the answer. Please help! Thanks- gkirkland
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- Inversion Matrix Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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MHB Method of Reduction of Order and Variation of Parameters
Hi everyone, :) One of my friends gave me the following question. I am posting the question and the answer here so that he could check his work. Question: This question concerns the differential equation, \[x\frac{d^{2}y}{dx^2}-(x+1)\frac{dy}{dx}+y=x^2\] and the associated homogeneous...- Sudharaka
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- Method Parameters Reduction Variation Variation of parameters
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Variation of parameters applied to an ODE
The ODE to solve via variation of parameters is ##(1-x)y''+xy'-y=(1-x)^2##. Knowing that ##e^x## and ##x## are solutions to the homogeneous ODE. Now if I call ##y_1=x## and ##y_2=e^x##, the Wronskian is ##W(y_1,y_2)=e^{x}(x-1)##. According to...- fluidistic
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- Applied Ode Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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Variation of parameters for a second order ODE
Homework Statement I must solve ##y''+2y'+2y=e^{-t}\sin t##. I know variation of parameters might not be the fastest/better way to solve this problem but I wanted to practice it as I never, ever, could solve a DE with it. (Still can't with this one). Though the method is supposed to work...- fluidistic
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- Ode Parameters Second order Second order ode Variation Variation of parameters
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Solve by using variation of parameters
x²y"(x)-3xy'(x)+3y(x)=2(x^4)(e^x) =>y"(x)-(3/x)y'(x)+(3/x²)y(x)=2x²e^x i don't know how to approach this problem because the coefficients are not constant and i am used to being given y1 and y2 HELP!- SOS2012
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Couldn't understand the proof for Method of variation of parameters
Here's the proof that I read for method of variation of parameters- https://www.physicsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52267&stc=1&d=1351081780 What I couldn't understand is that how could one simply assume that u'1y1+u2'y2=0 and u'1y'1+u2'y'2=g(x) I just don't understand...- iVenky
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Question on assumptions made during variation of parameters
I was recently trying to prove the variation of parameters formula for an nth degree equation, and I have come up with a question about the assumptions made during the derivation. During the derivation we assume that: u1'y1(k) + u2'y2(k) + . . . + un'yn(k) = 0 for k < n-1. It leads to the...- NoOne0507
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Method of Variation of Parameters
Homework Statement y''-2y'+y = \frac{e^x}{1+x^2} Homework Equations u_1 = -\int \frac{y_{2}g(x)}{W}dx u_2 = \int \frac{y_{1}g(x)}{W}dx g(x) = \frac{e^x}{1+x^2} W is the wronskian of y1 and y2. The Attempt at a Solution The characteristic equation for the homogenous solution...- ElijahRockers
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Variation of Parameters herupu
Homework Statement y'' + y' = 4t Homework Equations Use Variation of parameters! The Attempt at a Solution So I get homo of: c1 + c2 e^-(t) From there I get a Wronskian of -e^(-t) Then I get variations 2t^2 and -4e^t(t-1) Then get the answer of 2t^2 + 4t - 4 Btu...- FHamster
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Solve Differential Equation Using Variation of Parameters
Homework Statement Solve y''+25y=10sec(5t) Homework Equations NA The Attempt at a Solution I believe I have the correct answer for yp which is: 2/5log(cos(5t))cos(5t)+2tsin(5t) When I plug this into the Webwork field, it says it is incorrect. I checked my answer against...- TrueStar
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- Differential Differential equation Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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Stuck on Variation of Parameters: Help with a Calculus Problem
Hey ya'll! This is the equation under discussion: y'' - 2y' - 3y = x + 2 I'm asked to use the method of variation of parameters to determine a solution for this differential equation, but I reach a point where my the equations just look too ridiculous to continue. The point I have in...- karlmartin
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- Calculus Parameters Stuck Variation Variation of parameters
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Variation of parameters. unsure why my solution differs from professor's
Homework Statement what is general solution of 2y'' - 3y' + y = ((t^2) + 1)e^tHomework Equations my particular solution is: (e^t) ((2/3)(t^3) + 6t -4)) prof particular solution is: ((1/3)(t^3)(e^t)) - 2(t^3)(e^t) + 9(te^t) The Attempt at a Solution here is how i solved , i hope this is ok to...- fufufu
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Solve 3rd order ode using variation of parameters
Homework Statement Solve using variation of parameters y''' - 2y'' - y' + 2y = exp(4t) Homework Equations Solve using variation of parameters The Attempt at a Solution I got the homogenous solutions to be 1, -1, and 2. So, y = Aexp(t) + Bexp(-t) + Cexp(2t) + g(t) I got...- abstracted6
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- Ode Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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Variation of parameters to obtain PS of 2nd Order non-hom equation
The question I'm trying to solve is: y" - 6y' + 9y = \frac{exp(3x)}{(1+x)} I formulated the Gen solution which are: y1(x) = exp(3x) and y2(x) = xexp(3x) I've then calculated the wronskian to get: exp(6x) I then went onto to use the variation of parameters formula, which is where...- robot1000
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- 2nd order Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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Why Are u and v Functions Zero in VOP for Homogeneous 2nd Order Equations?
I just realized you can use variation of parameters (VOP) to solve for homogeneous 2nd order equations. I see it takes much longer to do so. But I was wondering why, if you use VOP, the u and v functions are 0. Is this because the coefficients of the homogeneous equation are constant, or...- lonewolf219
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4th Order Variation of Parameters
Find the complementary solution of y^\left(4\right) + 2y'' + y = sint Homogeneous Form would be y^\left(4\right) + 2y'' + y = 0 r^4 + 2r^2 + r = 0 \rightarrow r(r^3 + 2r + 1) = 0 This is where I'm stuck. Once I find y_c(t) I should be able to finish the problem, but I'm having trouble at this...- VitaX
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Solving DE Using Variation of Parameters & Given Solution
Homework Statement I must solve (1-x)y''+xy'-y=(1-x)^2 knowing that y=x is a solution if the right hand side is 0. I must use this fact in order to obtain the general solution to the DE Homework Equations Variation of parameters? The Attempt at a Solution I'm looking at...- fluidistic
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Solving a DE: Variation of Parameters & Integration Issues
I've picked up a bit more since my last problem. I need to solve the following DE: x^{2}\frac{dy}{dx}+x(x+2)y=e^{x} I decided to use variation of parameters, so I re-arranged it like so: \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{e^{x}}{x^{2}}-(1+\frac{2}{x})y Then solved the homogenous DE...- Lancelot59
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- Integration Issues Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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Solving An Initial Value DE Using Variation of Parameters
I need to find a solution to the following problem: (x^{2}-1)\frac{dy}{dx}+2y=(x+1)^{2} y(0)=0 I decided to try using variation of parameters. My teacher was unable to show any examples, and I'm having issues understanding the textbook. From what I see I need to get it onto this form...- Lancelot59
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Variation of parameters question
Homework Statement Using the variation of parameters method, find the general solution of x^{2}y" - 4xy' + 6y= x^{4}sin(x) Homework Equations y_{P}=v_{1}(x)y_{1}(x) + v_{2}(x)y_{2}(x) v_{1}(x)'y_{1}(x) + v_{2}'(x)y_{2}(x)=0 v_{1}(x)'y_{1}(x)' + v_{2}'(x)y_{2}(x)'=x^{4}sin(x)...- JamesGoh
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Inhomogeneous equations: Variation of Parameters
Homework Statement Find a particular solution for these second order differential equations. Homework Equations 1) y''+9y=tan3t 2) y''+y=tan^2t The Attempt at a Solution I want to find a fundamental solutions y1 and y2 because I want to find a particular solution like this...- peace-Econ
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Understanding Variation of Parameters for Solving Differential Equations
Homework Statement Solve for general solution with variation of parameter y'''(x) - y'(x) = x The Attempt at a Solution I initially looked at y'''(x) - y'(x) = x only and I foudn my answer to be y(x) = C_1e^{x} + C_2e^{-x} + 1 - x Now i looked through my book and it says it works for...- flyingpig
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Why is my particular solution not matching with the book's answer?
Given t^2 y'' -t(t+2)y' = (t+2)y= 2t^3 and y1= t, y2= te^t Find the particular solution- I ve worked the problem to [ -2t^2 -2t] by: -t * Integral [ 2t* te^t/ t^2e^t] + te^t * Integral [ 2t^2/ t^2e^t] whereas the book states that it is simply -2t^2. Can you guys tell me where I made...- newtomath
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Variation of parameters ODE what am i doing wrong?
Homework Statement \mathbb{x'}= \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 1 \\ 4 & 1 \end{bmatrix} \mathbf{x} \ + \ \begin{bmatrix} 2e^{t} \\ -e^{t} \end{bmatrix} Find the general solution. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution Well i found the eigenvalues of the matrix That i'll call...- bmxicle
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- Ode Parameters Variation Variation of parameters
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