1-D harmonic oscillator problem

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The problem involves a particle of mass m in a one-dimensional potential that is infinite for x ≤ 0 and quadratic for x > 0, representing a harmonic oscillator. Participants are discussing the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues for the ground and first excited states of this system.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to identify the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues associated with the harmonic oscillator potential, noting that the wave function must pass through the origin due to the infinite potential at x = 0.
  • Some participants question the labeling of energy levels and the corresponding eigenvalues, particularly regarding the notation used for the first excited state.
  • Others suggest reconsidering the definitions of the energy levels based on the quantum number n.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the correct labeling of energy levels and eigenfunctions. There is a recognition of potential semantic confusion regarding the notation of eigenvalues, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the implications of the infinite potential and the requirement for the wave function at x = 0. Participants are navigating through the definitions and conventions used in quantum mechanics without resolving the underlying confusion.

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Homework Statement


Consider a particle of mass m moving in a one-dimensional potential,

[tex]V(x)=\infty[/tex] for [tex]x\leq0[/tex]

[tex]V(x)=\frac{1}{2}m{\omega^2}{x^2}[/tex] for [tex]x>0[/tex]

This potential describes an elastic spring (with spring constant K = m[tex]\omega^2[/tex]) that can be extended but not compressed.

By reference to the solution of the 1-D harmonic oscillator potential sketch and state the form of the valid eigenfunctions, and state the corresponding eigenvalues, for the ground and first excited state.



Homework Equations


[tex]E=(n+\frac{1}{2})\hbar\omega[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


https://www.physicsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23025&stc=1&d=1263339354
Here is the potential sketch

Since the potential V(x)=[tex]\infty[/tex] for [tex]x\leq0[/tex], The potential at x=0 is infinity. So the wave function at x=0 must equal 0. If it were anything else the particle would have infinite energy. Therefore eigenfunctions must pass through the origin.

http://131.104.156.23/Lectures/CHEM_207/CHEM_207_Pictures/p75a_72gif

From the graph, n=1 and n=3 are the lowest eigenfunctions to pass through the origin.

Ground state eigenfunction n=1 [tex]{E_1}=(1+\frac{1}{2})\hbar\omega=\frac{3}{2}\hbar\omega[/tex]

1st excited state eigenfunction n=3 [tex]{E_2}=(3+\frac{1}{2})\hbar\omega=\frac{7}{2}\hbar\omega[/tex]

Can someone tell me if this is right?
 
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8614smith said:
1st excited state eigenfunction n=3
[tex] {E_2}=(3+\frac{1}{2})\hbar\omega=\frac{7}{2}\hbar\omega[/tex]

I believe you mean [itex]E_3=\cdots[/itex] and not what you wrote. But otherwise, this is correct. This problem is a good example of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parity_(physics)#Quantum_mechanics".
 
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jdwood983 said:
I believe you mean [itex]E_3=\cdots[/itex] and not what you wrote. But otherwise, this is correct. This problem is a good example of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parity_(physics)#Quantum_mechanics".

No, i meant [tex]E_2[/tex] as i thought it is the 2nd energy level i.e. the 1st excited state, can you tell me why this its not [tex]E_2[/tex]
 
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8614smith said:
No, i meant [tex]E_2[/tex] as i thought it is the 2nd energy level i.e. the 1st excited state, can you tell me why this its not [tex]E_2[/tex]

The reasoning is purely semantics. Since the formula is [itex]E_n=\left(n+\frac{1}{2}\right)\hbar\omega[/itex], if you have [itex]n=3[/itex] in the parenthesis, you should have [itex]n=3[/itex] as the subscript on [itex]E[/itex]. What you should say is (I made a mistake too)

[tex] E^\prime_1=E_3=\left(3+\frac{1}{2}\right)\hbar\omega=\frac{7}{2}\hbar\omega[/tex]

and you should also write

[tex] E^\prime_0=E_1=\left(1+\frac{1}{2}\right)\hbar\omega=\frac{3}{2}\hbar\omega[/tex]

because the first equation is the new first excited state and the second equation is the new ground state. If you calculate more levels, you should find that

[tex] E^\prime_n=\left(2n+\frac{3}{2}\right)\hbar\omega[/tex]
 

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