2.3 Exercises from the Feyman Lectures on Physics

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The discussion revolves around exercises from the Feynman Lectures on Physics, focusing on concepts of static equilibrium and the principle of virtual work. Participants explore the implications of forces acting on a body, particularly in different contexts such as outer space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of forces in static equilibrium, questioning the role of gravity and the implications of being in outer space. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of static equilibrium and the principle of virtual work, with some participants expressing confusion about notation and concepts.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the principle of virtual work and its application to equilibrium, while others seek clarification on specific terms and concepts. There is a mix of understanding and confusion, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants are navigating through definitions and mathematical expressions related to static equilibrium and virtual work, with some expressing uncertainty about specific notations and principles. There is an emphasis on understanding the conditions for equilibrium and the implications of forces acting on a body.

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Homework Statement
a body is acted upon by n forces and is in static equilibrium.Use the principle of virtual work t prove that
if n = 1 the magnitude of the force must be zero
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no equation
i don't know what's the answer but I think that the force needs to be gravity because is going down to the floor
 
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new90 said:
i don't know what's the answer but I think that the force needs to be gravity because is going down to the floor
What if the body is the middle of outer space?
 
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then there willl be work because there there will be a force pusing in some direction
 
Please try to understand what Professor Feynman meant by the words 'static equilibrium'.
 
i think it means that the body its not moving
 
new90 said:
i think it means that the body its not moving
It means that any force acting on the body in any direction is counter-balanced by a force acting in an oppositional direction.
 
Somewhere in your analysis you must use the principle of virtual work as the problem directs you to do. Write an expression in the case of a body at equilibrium when acted upon by ##n## forces and then see what happens when you set ##n=1##.
 
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Also remember that the principle of virtual work says the virtual work must be zero for any infinitesimal displacement. Because you could easily choose ##d\vec{r}## to be orthogonal to the resultant force!
 
etotheipi said:
Also remember that the principle of virtual work says the virtual work must be zero for any infinitesimal displacement. Because you could easily choose ##d\vec{r}## to be orthogonal to the resultant force!
Well, equally true is that it must be non-zero for any non-zero force -- if it is infinitesimal it is still infinitesimally non-zero. Let's please not abuse zero while we are petting our pet inconsistencies . . .
 
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Are you able to do it just by condition implied by static equilibrium? I mean do you know that ##\Sigma## notation for statics?
 
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sysprog said:
Well, equally true is that it must be non-zero for any non-zero force -- if it is infinitesimal it is still infinitesimally non-zero. Let's please not abuse zero while we are petting our pet inconsistencies . . .

My apologies, I was being careless. I meant to say "for any virtual displacement".
 
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Adesh said:
Are you able to do it just by condition implied by static equilibrium? I mean do you know that ##\Sigma## notation for statics?
In my view, the sigma notation, in this instance, refers to sum, I think that I don't quite fully understand your question . . .
 
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It means that any force acting on the body in any direction is counter-balanced by a force acting in an oppositional direction.
but there's its says only one force
 
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sysprog said:
In my view, the sigma notation, in this instance, refers to sum, I think that I don't quite fully understand your question . . .
Does OP know this ## \sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F_i} =0## ?
 
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whos OP
 
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new90 said:
whos OP
OP : Original Poster.
 
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OK
 
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I DINT KNOW THANKS
 
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new90 said:
I DINT KNOW THANKS
Do you know for Static Equilibrium we should have $$ \sum_{i =1}^{n} \vec{F_i} =0 $$ ?
 
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i don't know what it means the n
 
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new90 said:
i don't know what it means the n
$$\sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F_i} = \vec{F_1}+ \vec{F_2} + \vec{F_3} +... + \vec{F_n} =0$$ Are things a little clearer now?
 
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yes thanks
 
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but in this case its just
Fi= 0
 
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new90 said:
but in this case its just
Fi= 0
If ##n=1## we have $$ \sum_{i=1}^{1} \vec{F_i} = F_1 = 0$$ How about now?
 
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yes its clear
thanks
 
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new90 said:
yes its clear
thanks
But you don’t have to do it like this 😅
You have to do it by the Principle of virtual work.
 
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Principle of virtual work = the force x the virtual
displacement?
 
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thanks I answered with principle of virtual work
 
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Adesh said:
$$\sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F_i} = \vec{F_1}+ \vec{F_2} + \vec{F_3} +\dots+ \vec{F_n} =0$$
I 'corrected' your ##\LaTeX## ##-## you had 4 dots instead of 3 ##-## :wink: your math was just fine ##\dots##
 
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sysprog said:
I 'corrected' your ##\LaTeX## ##-## you had 4 dots instead of 3 ##-## :wink: your math was just fine ##\dots##
It seems that you have adjusted it’s height too!
 
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