2d Wavepacket in relativistic QM

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the time evolution of a spherically symmetric Gaussian wave packet in the context of the 2+1 dimensional Klein-Gordon equation. Participants explore methods for handling the Fourier transformations involved in this process, particularly addressing challenges posed by the relativistic dispersion relation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the difficulty in calculating the integral for \Psi(x,t) due to the square root in the dispersion relation.
  • Another participant suggests using spherical coordinates as a potential approach to simplify the problem.
  • A different participant notes that using polar coordinates led to a complicated expression involving Bessel functions, which hindered further progress.
  • One participant mentions that convolving with Bessel functions is likely, given the generality of the initial data, and references a related thread for additional context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing approaches to the problem, with no consensus on the best method to proceed. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective way to handle the integral.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity introduced by the square root in the dispersion relation and the resulting mathematical challenges, including the appearance of Bessel functions. There is also mention of the dependence on the initial conditions and the specific form of the wave packet.

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Dear users,

I wonder if there is anybody who can give me a hint on how to handle the following situation:

In the 2+1 dimensional Klein-Gordon equation with coordinates (t,x,y), I use as initial condition for \Psi(x,0) a spherically symmetric Gaussian. The relativistic dispersion relation is of course \omega^2=k_x^2+k_y^2.

I can now Fourier transform \Psi(x,0) to \Phi(k,0), no problem.

But when I want to calculate \Psi(x,t), by doing a second Fourier transformation, I get stuck because of the square root of the dispersion relation.

In other words, I can't solve the integral \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} dk_x dk_y \exp\left( i k_x x+i k_y y - i \sqrt{k_x^2+k_y^2}t -\alpha^2(k_x^2+k_y^2)/2\right).

If anybody could give me a hint on this, I would be very thankful and happy, I already spent way too much time on this!

Thanks very much!
 
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Have you tried spherical coordinates?

Torquil
 
Yes, I have tried polar coordinates, but I ended up with a fairly complicated angle expression in the exponent which resulted in some Bessel function after angle integration, and then I could not proceed.

torquil said:
Have you tried spherical coordinates?

Torquil
 
Yeah, pretty sure you will end up convolving with Bessel functions, given the generality of the initial data. Remember that Bessel functions of order n+1/2 can be written in closed form.

This thread might help... it was for the 3+1dim massless case however. I had the idea at the time about seeing how exp(-r^2) would evolve in time, and then since d/dx commutes with the wave operator this would give closed form solutions to the wave equation with initial conditions corresponding to all the Hermite functions.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=269345

Best of luck

Dave
 

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