2nd Law of Thermodynamics question

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The discussion explores the implications of turning on a flashlight in an empty universe, questioning whether this action decreases entropy. It argues that while the photons emitted cannot be recovered, the overall entropy of the universe still increases due to energy dissipation from the flashlight's battery. The concept of a boundary-less universe complicates the scenario, suggesting that the experiment may be impossible to fully analyze. The conversation also draws parallels to the holographic principle and black hole entropy. Ultimately, the second law of thermodynamics remains intact despite the theoretical considerations presented.
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I stand on the outermost planet orbiting the outermost star of the outermost galaxy of our universe. I turn on my flash-light and I can be sure that the beam of light will not hit any object. After I turn it on, I cannot recover the photons or prove they ever existed, so does it mean I decreased the entropy of the universe, in a sense? 2nd law violation?
 
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Nah, the entropy of the universe still increased as the energy in the battery used to power your flashlight was dissipated as heat.
 
Crazy Tosser said:
I stand on the outermost planet orbiting the outermost star of the outermost galaxy of our universe. I turn on my flash-light and I can be sure that the beam of light will not hit any object.

If the universe has no boundary, then this experiment may be impossible. Not completely sure though. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_of_the_Universe#Local_geometry_.28spatial_curvature.29".

Crazy Tosser said:
After I turn it on, I cannot recover the photons or prove they ever existed, so does it mean I decreased the entropy of the universe, in a sense? 2nd law violation?

This scenario is very similar to the problem of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle#Black_Hole_entropy".
 
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