Ladder leaning against the wall, that we dont want to fall down

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To determine the minimal angle at which a ladder leans against a wall without falling, it is essential to analyze the forces acting on it, including friction between the ladder and both the wall and the ground. The discussion emphasizes the importance of balancing the horizontal and vertical components of these forces. Additionally, moments should be considered about a suitable pivot point to ensure stability. The complexity arises from the interplay of forces and the concept of circular motion. A clear diagram may help in visualizing the problem and finding a solution.
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problem:

ladder is leaning against the wall.

There is friction between ladder and wall - f1

and there is friction between ladder and ground - f2

what is the minimal angle between ladder and ground that ladder doesn't fall down.
I though it's easy, but then i realized it's not only about force - it's also about "circle motion" (you know what i mean). I don't know hot to solve it.tell me if my description itn's clear so i'll make picture.
 
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Hi hellbike! :wink:

You need to very carefully give names to the horizontal and vertical components of all the forces, and then balance the horizontal and vertical components (separately), and also take moments about some suitable point. :smile:
 
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