A circuit question involving internal resistances

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The discussion revolves around a circuit problem involving a 6V battery, an ammeter, and a voltmeter, with a resistor connected in parallel to the voltmeter. The voltmeter reading decreases by a factor of 3, while the ammeter reading increases by the same factor. Initial attempts to solve the problem yielded a voltmeter reading of 4.8V, but further analysis using voltage dividers, Kirchhoff's rules, and Ohm's law led to the correct reading of 4.5V. The successful equations involved relationships between the internal resistances of the ammeter and voltmeter, ultimately confirming the final voltage reading. The solution highlights the importance of simplifying equations to arrive at the correct answer.
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A battery has an emf of 6v. The battery is connected in series with an ammeter and a voltmeter.If a certain resistor is connected in parallel with the voltmeter,the voltmeter reading decreases by a factor of 3,and the ammeter reading increases by the sme factor. What is the initial reading V of the voltmeter? All elements except battery in the circuit have unknown internal resistances

2. The attempt at a solution
R3 is the resistor that is connected in parallel with the voltmeter.
I also use R1,R2 to represent internal resistances of voltmeter and ammeter which i assume are resistors connected in series to the voltmeter and ammeter.(ammeter then measures current flowing through R2 while voltmeter measures pd across R1 or R3)

I tried to construct equations using basic rules about resistors connected in series or parallel,after solving some (overly complex) equations,i had V=4.8v while the answer is v=4.5v

I also tried to use Kirchhoff's rules to solve,but it did not work out.
 
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Can you post your equations? I was able to get 4.5V using voltage divider, KCL, and ohms law (x2).

I really just started writing equations until something popped out at me - then I had an idea where to go!
 
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Can you post your equations? I was able to get 4.5V using voltage divider, KCL, and ohms law (x2).

I really just started writing equations until something popped out at me - then I had an idea where to go!

I simplified my equations and now i can get the correct answer of 4.5v
my equations are as follows
assume R1//R3 is r

IR1+IR2=6V
3IR2+3Ir=6V
solve these to get R1-2R2=3r

one more equation:
IR1=3(3I)r → R1=9r

so R1=3R1-6R2
R1=3R2

therefore IR1=4.5V
 
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