A question about Marion&Thornton book on Classical Mechanics (year 2)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the suitability and quality of the book "Introduction Classical Dynamics of Particles & Systems" (5th ed.) by Marion and Thornton for second-year undergraduate physics students. Participants compare it to other texts such as Goldstein, Cassiday & Fowles, and Hand & Finch, discussing their levels and appropriateness for different stages of study in classical mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Felicity inquires about the level of the Marion and Thornton book compared to her previous study material and asks for recommendations on whether to choose Goldstein or Thornton.
  • One participant states that Goldstein is an honors level book and suggests Cassiday & Fowles as a good introduction to more advanced texts like Landau and Lifshitz.
  • Another participant describes Marion and Thornton as traditional but critiques it as being inferior to Goldstein, which they classify as a graduate text.
  • This participant expresses a preference for Hand & Finch for undergraduate dynamics and José & Saletan for more advanced studies, while noting that Landau is not suitable for beginners in classical dynamics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the quality and appropriateness of Marion and Thornton, with some participants supporting it as a good choice while others criticize it and recommend alternatives. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which book is definitively better for the intended audience.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying opinions on the level of difficulty and suitability of the texts mentioned, indicating a lack of agreement on the best choice for second-year undergraduates. The discussion reflects differing educational backgrounds and preferences in learning materials.

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Dear all,
I am wondering if Introduction Classical Dynamics of Particles & Systems (5 ed.) by Marion and Thornton is any good?
I have already studied year 1 Classical Mechanics course, using University Physics by Young and Freedman.
May I know if Marion&Thornton book is of higher level and suitable for year 2 undergrad Physics?
Would you recommend Goldstein or Thornton?

With thanks,
Felicity
 
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Goldstein is a honours level book. I am using Cassiday & Fowles, and I think it makes an excellent introduction to a book like Landau and Lifshi*tz, which would follow it very nicely.
P.S. my prof says Marion and Thornton is a good book.
 
Marion & Thornton is a pretty traditional book for undergraduate dynamics.

Traditional, but kind of crappy. Goldstein is in an entirely different league though, since it is supposed to be a graduate text.

Personally I like Hand & Finch for undergraduate dynamics, and José & Saletan at a more advanced level. Landau is a great text, but not for someone learning classical dynamics.
 
Thank you guys =)
I appreciate your help.
 

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