A question about the parameters/constants entering climate models

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The discussion revolves around the constants and parameters used in modern climate models, including their descriptions, values, and uncertainties. Participants explore various resources and literature related to climate modeling, addressing both theoretical and practical aspects of the topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests resources that provide a list and description of constants and parameters used in climate models, along with their uncertainties.
  • Another participant suggests Lawrence Krauss' latest book as a starting point, noting it begins with simple models and elaborates on them.
  • A third participant shares various resources, including links to EU and USA environmental departments that provide overviews of climate change impact parameters.
  • Some participants mention that climate modeling is a broad field, suggesting that older references might offer simpler and more explicit explanations of earlier models.
  • Additional resources are provided, including links to books on general circulation model development and climate change science.

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Participants generally agree on the complexity and breadth of the topic, with multiple resources suggested. However, there is no consensus on a single definitive resource or approach to understanding the constants and parameters in climate models.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the variability in climate models and the challenges in identifying comprehensive resources that cover all aspects of the parameters and constants used.

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Can someone point out to a resource where would be provided a list and description of the constants/parameters used in modern climate models. And the values used with their uncertainties.
(PS: I know that any question related to global warming tends to trigger some people, I was called dumb the last time I asked a scientific question here. If you can't discuss climate models without getting snarky, please don't respond).
 
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The latest book of Lawrence Krauss, the physics of climate change. Begins from simple models and elaborates.
 
hacivat said:
The latest book of Lawrence Krauss, the physics of climate change. Begins from simple models and elaborates.
Thank you.
 
nrqed said:
Can someone point out to a resource where would be provided a list and description of the constants/parameters used in modern climate models. And the values used with their uncertainties.

That's quite a large topic due to the different models regularly used for different purposes (climate modelling is a very wide field, far beyond global warming issue). Krauss' book is indeed a good one, I also suggest this one to start but it won't satisfy all your needs :
Farmer, G. T., & Cook, J. (2013). Climate change science: A modern synthesis: Volume 1 - The physical climate. Springer.

Personally I would start with older references about older models because it would be simpler and more explicit. Something like this:
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-94-009-3041-4

Or this one:
https://www.elsevier.com/books/general-circulation-model-development/randall/978-0-12-578010-0
 

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