A spaceship launched from a space station was moving with a speed 0.6c

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The problem involves a spaceship launched from a space station, moving at a speed of 0.6c, and firing a proton gun at a speed of 0.99c. The question seeks to determine the speed of the protons as measured by an observer on the space station, considering the directions of motion involved.

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  • Participants discuss the use of Lorentz transformation equations to analyze the velocity components of the protons relative to the space station. There is uncertainty about whether one or two components of velocity should be considered due to the perpendicular motion described in the problem.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the directions of motion for the spaceship and the protons. Some suggest that both components may need to be calculated, while others express confusion over the wording of the problem. Guidance has been offered regarding the application of relativistic velocity transformation equations.

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There is ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the directions of motion, which has led to differing interpretations among participants. The exact speed of the space station is not specified, which may affect the analysis.

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A spaceship launched from a space station was moving with a speed 0.6c , with respect to the space station , in a direction perpendicular to its motion , when , a band of asteroids is observed a head of the ship. A proton gun is shut by the spaceship with a speed of 0.99c , in order to destroy it . what speed will an observer in the space station measure for these protons?

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using lorentz transformation of velocity but are there two components or only one ??


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[tex] \begin{array}{rcl}<br /> v_x & = & \frac{v'_x + V}{1 + \frac{v'_x \, V}{c^2}} \\<br /> <br /> v_y & = & \frac{v'_y \, \sqrt{1 - \frac{V^2}{c^2}}}{1 + \frac{v'_x \, V}{c^2}}<br /> \end{array}[/tex]
 


so there are 2 components?
can you give me the solution?
 


The way I read it, there is only one velocity component. As dickforce pointed out all you need to do is use the relativistic velocity transformation equation to find the speed of the protons from the point of view of an observer on the space station.
 


tannerbk said:
The way I read it, there is only one velocity component. As dickforce pointed out all you need to do is use the relativistic velocity transformation equation to find the speed of the protons from the point of view of an observer on the space station.

i know but do i use both components because according to the problem , its direction is perpendicular to its motion ?? so i guess we should find ux and uy
 


to me i saw it that there are two components
 


What is the speed of the space station? The problem statement implies it's moving, but you haven't said how fast it's going. You can't answer the question without knowing that.
 


queenstudy said:
A spaceship launched from a space station was moving with a speed 0.6c , with respect to the space station , in a direction perpendicular to its motion , when , a band of asteroids is observed a head of the ship. A proton gun is shut by the spaceship with a speed of 0.99c , in order to destroy it . what speed will an observer in the space station measure for these protons?
The wording seems a bit obscure, especially the part about 'in a direction perpendicular to its motion'. It's not clear what that statement refers to.

Let's say that the spaceship is launched along the x-axis of the space station. Are the protons fired in the x' direction or the y' direction, in the frame of the spaceship? (Solve it both ways.)
 


Doc AL , you are right the english language is weak , but let me tell you how i understood the question in the exam:
the photon gun is shooting in the y-axis while the ship is moving in the x-axis i don't know that's why i asked lol
 
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Doc Al said:
The wording seems a bit obscure, especially the part about 'in a direction perpendicular to its motion'. It's not clear what that statement refers to.

Let's say that the spaceship is launched along the x-axis of the space station. Are the protons fired in the x' direction or the y' direction, in the frame of the spaceship? (Solve it both ways.)

Dc AL , thank you for your time
i know that is how it was written in the exam , word by word, my heart is telling me there is only one direction , but that sentence you pointed out is what made change my mind
 
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queenstudy said:
i know that is how it was written in the exam , word by word, my heart is telling me there is only one direction , but that sentence you pointed out is what made change my mind
Are you sure that that is a word for word statement of the problem and not just your recollection?

In any case, if I had to guess what was meant I would guess as you did: The spaceship moves along the x-direction and the protons are fired along the y'-direction. That's the interpretation that makes the most sense and gives the most interesting problem.
 
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Doc Al said:
Are you sure that that is a word for word statement of the problem and not just your recollection?

In any case, if I had to guess what was meant I would guess as you did: The spaceship moves along the x-direction and the protons are fired along the y'-direction. That's the interpretation that makes the most sense and gives the most interesting problem.

so in this case we will need to find two components , i see thank you very much
and yes i wrote it as it is , the english language is weak i know
 

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