A stone is thrown verticall upward

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A stone is thrown vertically upward from a 70-meter cliff with an initial speed of 12.0 m/s. The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for the stone to reach the bottom of the cliff, its speed just before impact, and the total distance traveled. Participants highlight the importance of understanding vertical motion and the equations of motion, emphasizing that without an angle of trajectory, the stone would not fall over the cliff. The calculations suggest that the stone's final speed before hitting the ground is approximately 38.9 m/s, and the total distance traveled is around 84.7 meters. The conversation underscores the need for clarity in problem statements regarding trajectory to ensure accurate calculations.
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Homework Statement



Question Details:
9. Problem: A stone is thrown verticall upward with a speed of 12.0 m/s from the edge of a cliff 70.0m high. How much later does it reach the bottom of the cliff? What is its speed just before hitting the ground? What total distance did it travel?

time=
speed=
distance=



Homework Equations


y = yo + vot + 1/2 at2
Δy = Vot + 1/2 gt2
v2 = vo2 + 2g Δy
v = vo + gt


The Attempt at a Solution



v = vo + gt
0=12 + (-9.8)t
-12= -9.8t
1.22=t

V2 = Vo2 +2g Δy
02 = (12)2 +2 (-9.8) Δy
02 = 144 + (-19.6) Δy
-144 = -19.6 Δy
7.35=Δy

Δy= Vot + 1/2 gt2
77.35 = o +1/2 (9.8)t2
77.35 = o +4.9 t2
15.79 = t2
3.97 = t

1.22 t + 3.97 t = 5.19 t

distance is 7.35m x 2 + 70m = 84.7 m

V= Vo = at
= -12 + 9.8 (5.2)
= -12 + 50.96
= 38.9 m/s

am I close or totally lost? Help please!
 
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ironhawk316 said:

Homework Statement



Question Details:
9. Problem: A stone is thrown verticall upward with a speed of 12.0 m/s from the edge of a cliff 70.0m high. How much later does it reach the bottom of the cliff? What is its speed just before hitting the ground? What total distance did it travel?

"Vertically upward", as stated in your scenario, fails to define any deviation from vertical therefore, there would be no reason for the stone to move in the horizontal direction. This would prevent the stone from ever falling over the 70 meter cliff. Your scenario is missing an angle of trajectory.
 
That is the whole problem. Where do I go next then or what is the right equation?
 
Hi ironhawk316! :smile:

Why are you doing this in stages?

Use s = v0t + at2/2 starting at the start and finishing at the finish. :wink:

(oh … and please don't use yellow!)
 
ironhawk316 said:
That is the whole problem. Where do I go next then or what is the right equation?

Without an angle of trajectory provided, there won't be any free-falling of the stone over the 70 meter cliff. Since they want the values as per the 70 meter free-fall over the cliff, they must provide the angle of trajectory for the stone.

"Vertical upward" or "vertically upward" fails to provide any X (horizontal) direction and they fail to provide any deviation from vertical. The stone will simply fall right back to where it was thrown unless they provide you with an angle of trajectory. The scenario stated is lacking crucial info.
 
Maybe the stone-thrower's arm is extended over the edge of the cliff. I think that might be what the problem wants you to assume.
 
why don't you use v^2 - u^2 = 2as directly after getting displacement?
s = displacement
u = initial velocity
v = final velocity
a = gravity = -9.8

getting displacement = 12 x 1.2
= 14.4m
single vertical distance of rock = 7.2m

s = 77.2
u = 0
v = ?
a = -9.8
t = ?

then directly use v^2 - u^2 = 2as
v^2 - 0 = 2(-9.8)(77.2)
v^2 - 0 = 2(-9.8)(77.2)
v^2 = 1513.12
v = 38.9m/s

this should be easier than what you did above~
 

:approve:
i need help!
a stone is thrown upward in a vertical manner..
wat is its acceleration while it is going up!
 
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