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The discussion focuses on the fields of Optical Physics and Solid State Physics, exploring the relevant areas of physics and mathematics that contribute to Quantum Optics and Quantum Information. Participants seek to understand the interplay between theoretical and experimental physics within these domains, as well as the job opportunities available for theoretical physicists.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for specific information about the areas of physics relevant to Quantum Optics, questioning the role of Quantum Field Theory (QFT) and other fields like Quantum Electrodynamics (QED) and Quantum Thermodynamics (QTF).
  • Another participant suggests that field theories, including QFT, have become relevant in both solid state and optical physics, citing examples like BCS theory and cavity QED.
  • There is a discussion about the necessary mathematics for these fields, with one participant recommending courses in analysis, differential equations, linear algebra, and numeric methods, while expressing uncertainty about more abstract areas like number theory.
  • Participants raise questions about the distinction between theoretical and experimental physicists, with some expressing interest in a hybrid role that involves both theory and experimentation.
  • Concerns are voiced regarding job opportunities for theoretical physicists in optical physics, with one participant noting a scarcity of industrial positions but mentioning their own experience working in a lab that involves applied research.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of QFT to optical and solid state physics, and there is no consensus on the job market for theoretical physicists in these fields. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the balance between theoretical and experimental roles.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the specific areas of mathematics that are most beneficial for Optical Physics and Solid State Physics, nor on the applicability of various theoretical frameworks. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and perspectives without definitive conclusions.

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Now I can obviously just search the internet for information about what these areas of physics are about, but what I want to know is more specific information about these areas that I can't find.
Like what areas of Physics are used in Optical physics or maybe more specifically Quantum Optics/Information, besides the obvious thing like optics. Electrodynamics, and Quamtum mechanics are when talking about Quantum Optics, what about areas like QED, or maybe QTF? Are they 'useless' in optical physics?
So to be even more specific what areas of math do one also use? Since I want to take some math courses, and don't want to take stuff completely irrevant.

And the questions for Solid State Physics.
 
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Aren't there people in here who have studied Quantum Optics or Information, and can say something about it?
 
I think that orginally (early 20th centuury) optics and solid state did not have much use for field theory. However, this has changed. The BCS theory of superconductivity, effective field theories, and cavity QED are all examples where field theories have had application to solid state and optics. So I don't think QFT is useless if you are going into these fields.

In terms of math classes, as long as you take math classes in analysis, differential equations, linear algebra, and numeric methods, then you will find tools that make you a better physicist. I'm not sure about more abstract areas like number theory.
 
When getting a degree in those areas (or in any areas of physics), do you then become EITHER a theoretical OR an experimental physicist, isn't there something 'in between'? I like theoretical physics but I also want to test the theories and hence be 'involved' in experiments. But I think theoreticians are usually involved with experiments, and work with experimentalists, so is it the case in optical physics?

But how are the job opportunities for theoretical physicists in optical physics?
 
P3X-018 said:
When getting a degree in those areas (or in any areas of physics), do you then become EITHER a theoretical OR an experimental physicist, isn't there something 'in between'? I like theoretical physics but I also want to test the theories and hence be 'involved' in experiments. But I think theoreticians are usually involved with experiments, and work with experimentalists, so is it the case in optical physics?

But how are the job opportunities for theoretical physicists in optical physics?

Most theoreticians are involved with experiments, how would you be able to test your predictions.

As for jobs in thoeretical optics, I have not seen too many out there in the industrial world, there are a few. I do exactly what you are discussing, theoretician working in a lab checking my predictions. Most of my work involves materials characterization, so I do a lot of what would be considered "applied research".
 

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