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A generator with adjustable frequency is connected to a variable resistance, a capacitor of 2.50 μF, and an inductor, with the current amplitude at half-maximum at frequencies of 2.3 kHz and 2.5 kHz. The discussion revolves around deriving the inductance L using the relationship between resistance, impedance, and frequency. Participants clarify that at half amplitude, the net impedance is equal to 2R, leading to two equations with two unknowns (L and R). A corrected formula for L is proposed as L = 1/(Cω1ω2), which aligns with resonance conditions. The conversation emphasizes the importance of careful algebraic manipulation to arrive at the correct solution.
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Homework Statement


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In the figure, a generator with an adjustable frequency of oscillation is connected to a variable resistance R, a capacitor of C = 2.50 μF, and an inductor of inductance L. The amplitude of the current produced in the circuit by the generator is at half-maximum level when the generator's frequency is 2.3 or 2.5 k Hz. What is L?

Homework Equations


1. I=\frac{\xi_{m}}{Z}cos(\omega_{d}t-\varphi)

2. Z=\sqrt{R_{v}^2+\chi^2}

3. \chi=L\omega-\frac{1}{C\omega}

4. \omega_{r}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{LC}}

5. \Delta\omega=\frac{R}{L}

6. \omega=2\pi\nu

Where \Delta\omega is the spread of \omega at .7 times the maximum current (at \omega_{r})

The Attempt at a Solution



I_{res}=\frac{\xi_{m}}{R}

At the given frequencies we have

I=\frac{I_{res}}{2}=\frac{\xi_{m}}{2R}=\frac{\xi_{m}}{\sqrt{R_{v}^2+\chi_{1,2}^2}}

The voltage amplitudes cancel and we have one equation and two unknowns.

I was thinking about using equation 5 but that is only for the gap between the two frequencies for I_{m}=.7I_{res} which isn't the case here.
 
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anybody?
 
americanforest said:
anybody?

I'm not seeing the picture. I think the link you used is wrong.
 
learningphysics said:
I'm not seeing the picture. I think the link you used is wrong.

Problem corrected. Sorry
 
As per your equations, at half amplitude you have:

2R = net impedance

so plugging in your two frequencies into this equation... you get two equations. You have two equations with 2 unknowns (L and R). You can solve for L.
 
The equation I come up with at the end is L=\frac{1}{C^{2}\omega_{1}^{2}\omega_{2}^{2}}. Is this right? I seem to be getting the wrong answer with this equation?

I wish I had some kind of elf to do tedious algebra for me...
 
americanforest said:
The equation I come up with at the end is L=\frac{1}{C^{2}\omega_{1}^{2}\omega_{2}^{2}}. Is this right? I seem to be getting the wrong answer with this equation?

I wish I had some kind of elf to do tedious algebra for me...

EDIT: wait: shouldn't it be L = \frac{1}{C\omega_{1}\omega_{2}}
 
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learningphysics said:
EDIT: wait: shouldn't it be L = \frac{1}{C\omega_{1}\omega_{2}}

Indeed it should. Thanks. That kind of mistake is typical of me...
 
oops ... you know that (at resonance), LC = 1/w^2 , with w~2*pi*2.3 KHz ...
at the half-max current (hi_f and lo_f) , chi = (+/-) sqrt(3) R
(... from #2, 4R^2 is mostly inductive at higher frequencies than resonance.)
the algebra isn't very tedious when you eliminate the sqrt(3)R first
 
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