Add 3 Vectors: Magnitude & Angle Calculation

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The discussion revolves around the addition of three vectors with specified magnitudes and angles. The original poster presents Vector A with a magnitude of 12, Vector B with a magnitude of 5, and Vector C with a magnitude of 8, along with the angles between them. The goal is to determine the resultant magnitude and angle relative to Vector A.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore various methods for vector addition, including using the cosine and sine laws, and breaking vectors into components. There are attempts to calculate the resultant magnitude and angle, with some participants questioning the correctness of their results and the methods used.

Discussion Status

Several participants have shared their calculations and results, with some expressing uncertainty about their answers. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches, including component methods and graphical representations. Guidance has been offered regarding the addition of vectors and the formation of resultant triangles, but no consensus has been reached on the final answers.

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Participants note the challenge of visualizing vector addition and the potential for confusion in calculating angles. There is also mention of using the dot product to find angles, indicating varying levels of understanding and approach among participants.

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Adding 3 Vectors?

Homework Statement



I am given Vector A which has a magnitude of 12, Vector B which has a magnitude of 5, and Vector C which has a magnitude of 8. I am given that the angle between Vector A and Vector B is 30 degrees and that the angle between Vector B and Vector C is 80 degrees. All angles are counterclockwise and Vector A is the HORIZONTAL..

I have to find the magnitude of |A+B-C| and the angle, relative to Vector A


Homework Equations


Cosine and Sine Law


The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was added A and B first using an angle of 150 degrees in the cos law. This gave me an answer of 16.52... However from here I flip Vector C and draw the resultant from there... However I do not know what the angle opposite from the resultant of (A+B) + (-C)

Please give me some guidance
 
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I tried it but I am not sure if I got it correct. Is the answer 16.8863 and θ=36.4 degrees?
 


Toranc3 said:
I tried it but I am not sure if I got it correct. Is the answer 16.8863 and θ=36.4 degrees?

I don't have the answer... What was the angle opposite to the resultant that you got?
 


Someone has gotten an answer of 19.715... Heres how he did it:

Start by splitting the vectors into their x and y components.

the angle of A is 0 degrees.
the angle of B is 30 degrees.
the angle of C is 80+30 = 110 degrees.

so:
A_x = 12
A_y = 0

B_x = 5cos(30) = 4.3301
B_y = 5sin(30) = 2.5

C_x = 8cos(110) = -2.7362
C_y = 8sin(110) = 7.5175

now we can add the vectors easily (call the resulting vector D):
D_x = A_x + B_x - C_x
D_y = A_y + B_y - C_y

D_x = 12 + 4.3301 + 2.7362 = 19.0663
D_y = 0 + 2.5 - 7.5175 = -5.0175

now we can find the angle the vector makes by using tan^-1(D_y / D_x)
tan^-1(-5.0175 / 19.0663) = -14.73 degrees from the horizontal.

the magnitude is found by sqrt((D_x)^2 + (D_y)^2)
sqrt(19.0663^2 + (-5.0175)^2) = sqrt(388.699)
=
19.715

Anyone know how to do it through drawings instead of x and y components?
 


Vectors are added head to tail. You can draw them out starting with A being horizontal to the right. B is added to the arrow end of A up 30° from horizontal, and C is added to the end of B at 80° from the line of vector B or an effective 110° from horizontal. You need to sum the X and Y components of each of these vectors and form a final triangle to solve for the ange and resultant magnitude. Equations would be as follows:

Sum of X's: 12+[5cos(30)]-[8cos(110)] = Xsum
Sum of Y's: 0+[5sin(30)]-[8cos(110)] = Ysum

*Remember that a -(-) equals a positive and the -[8cos(110)] ends up being added to 5cos(30) due to it becoming negative, and similarly for the sines but in this case it end up being
negative.

Resultant vector triangle is formed from these summed X and Y values, and you solve it with pythagorean theorum. Start with Xsum horizontal to the right, and YSum being added vertically down from the end of the XSum vector arrow. Resultant will be Tan-1(-YSum/XSum) = -X° down from horizontal, and magnitude is =Sqrt(Xsum^2+Ysum^2)
 
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Stanc said:
I don't have the answer... What was the angle opposite to the resultant that you got?

I think I got the angle wrong. I got the angle between the resultant and A from the dot product. Sorry! :cry:
 

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