Adding "annihilating terms" to factor

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The discussion revolves around the factorization of the expression a^4 - b^4 and the concept of "annihilating terms" used to facilitate this process. Participants explore the validity of multiple factorization methods, noting that both a^4 - b^4 can be factored into (a - b)(a^3 + a^2b + ab^2 + b^3) and (a^2 - b^2)(a^2 + b^2). The conversation highlights that factoring can yield different correct solutions, similar to how numbers can be factored in various ways. There is a focus on understanding how to determine which terms to insert when using annihilating terms, with some preferring traditional division methods. Overall, the complexity of polynomial factorization is acknowledged, suggesting it merits deeper study.
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Not a homework problem, just something I came across in my book that makes sense but not fully.

Homework Statement


Factor: ##a^4-b^4##

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The book's solution:

##a^4-b^4##
##=a^4-a^3b+a^3b-a^2b^2+a^2b^2-ab^3+ab^3-b^4##
##=a^3\left(a-b\right)+a^2b\left(a-b\right)+ab^2\left(a-b\right)+b^3\left(a-b\right)##
##=\left(a-b\right)\left(a^3+a^2b+ab^2+b^3\right)##

Just what is going on here? Such a tiny binomial resulting in something way larger, with what seem like arbitrary terms added in.

Additionally, it gives another factorization of the given problem ##a^4-b^4## which is also factored into ##\left(a^2-b^2\right)\left(a^2+b^2\right)##
You can have more than one correct solution when factoring a polynomial? In what situations would one be the "correct vs incorrect" way? Or is it synonymous with something like factoring 12 into 4*3, 6*2, 12*1 where they are all correct?
 
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You could still perform another factorization on ##a^2-b^2##. Since it didn't say until only irreducible factors are left, it has indeed more than one solution.
 
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Man this factoring stuff goes deep. Feels like there should be an entire semester focusing on just this. Must be pretty important!
 
DS2C said:
Man this factoring stuff goes deep. Feels like there should be an entire semester focusing on just this. Must be pretty important!
It is, and of course it's always only up to units, as one can always factor ##f(x) = c \cdot (c^{-1} \cdot f(x))## and which is of no use.
 
Not at all sure what that means unfortunately. I'm only at factoring polynomials in the form of ##ax^2+bx+c## currently. There's obviously a lot more to learn.
 
Well, just apply what you did once again on: ##a^4-b^4=(a^2-b^2)(a^2+b^2)## and you get three factors, which cannot be split any further, so we call them irreducible. The terms ##a^4-b^4## and ##a^2-b^2## are reducible.
 
Yeah that's my thread too lol. The reason for a new thread is a new aspect of the factoring. The problem posted, which was out of my book, mentions "inserting annihilating terms" into the expression to factor. This is what I am having trouble wrapping my head around. Why do this and how do you determine what "annihilating" terms to input?
 
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Yeah that's my thread too lol. The reason for a new thread is a new aspect of the factoring. The problem posted, which was out of my book, mentions "inserting annihilating terms" into the expression to factor. This is what I am having trouble wrapping my head around. Why do this and how do you determine what "annihilating" terms to input?
It is simply another way to describe a division. Instead of calculating ##(a^4-b^4):(a-b)## the entire division is somehow written backwards. If we know the result, then we know which "annihilating terms" to be added. Otherwise it's probably a try and error. I still prefer the division. I doubt there is a system behind it.
 
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That makes more sense. Here's the text in question for reference.
 

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Factor again ##\left(a^2-b^2\right)## in ##\left(a^2-b^2\right)\left(a^2+b^2\right)##

To see that the two factorisations are actually the same, try to re-write the above factorisation as ##\left(a-b\right)\left(a^3+a^2b+ab^2+b^3\right)##. You should see what to do after the first step above.

Normally in factorising we try to factorise each factor as far as possible, so in this case, the first part of this reply is what we normally do.
 
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qspeechc said:
Factor again ##\left(a^2-b^2\right)## in ##\left(a^2-b^2\right)\left(a^2+b^2\right)##
I assume you've meant ##\left(a^2-b^2\right)## in ##\left(a-b\right)\left(a+b\right)##.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I assume you've meant ##\left(a^2-b^2\right)## in ##\left(a-b\right)\left(a+b\right)##.

No. "In" not "into", as in, factor again the part ##\left(a^2-b^2\right)## in the expression ##\left(a-b\right)\left(a+b\right)##
 
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