Adiabatic but permeable piston

In summary, a permeable piston can be adiabatic if substances can flow in and out of the cylinder and have heat energy. This can be achieved by using a porous material that strongly absorbs the substance it is permeable for, allowing it to lose its thermal energy as it diffuses against a temperature gradient. This is an idealization and can be seen in Stirling engines where a permeable "displacer" is used instead of a traditional piston.
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How can a permeable piston be adiabatic? If substances can go in and out of the cylinder and the substances have heat energy, heat can be exchanged through a permeable piston.
I came across this term in the book, but cannot understand.
 
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How can a permeable piston even be a piston?
 
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You could use an ice cube as a piston which is permeable for water at 0 deg. , but impermeable for heat. Better even, use some porous material which strongly absorbs the substance it shall be permeable for. The substance will loose its thermal energy when first binding to the material, and then diffuse against the temperature gradiet. Microporous substances are permeable for the superfluid component of liquid Helium which has S=0, but not the non-superfluid phase, which has S>0, so they can act as nearly ideal permeable adiabatic pistons for helium.
 
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It's an idealization. Substances can flow through the pores, but the material comprising the piston does not conduct heat. This would be the same deal as an array of insulated capillaries in parallel.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
How can a permeable piston even be a piston?

A Stirling engine involves the use of a permeable 'piston' although the term 'displacer' is used to distinguish it from the type of 'piston' you have in mind.
 
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1. What is an adiabatic but permeable piston?

An adiabatic but permeable piston is a type of piston that allows for the transfer of energy or matter through its surface, while also maintaining an adiabatic (no heat transfer) condition.

2. How does an adiabatic but permeable piston work?

The piston contains a material, such as a gas, that can expand or contract to allow for the transfer of energy or matter. However, the piston is insulated to prevent any heat transfer, making it adiabatic.

3. What is the purpose of using an adiabatic but permeable piston?

This type of piston is commonly used in thermodynamics and heat transfer experiments to study the effects of adiabatic conditions on energy and matter transfer.

4. How is an adiabatic but permeable piston different from a regular piston?

An adiabatic but permeable piston is designed specifically to maintain an adiabatic condition, meaning no heat transfer occurs. A regular piston may allow for heat transfer and is not specifically designed for adiabatic experiments.

5. What are some real-world applications of adiabatic but permeable pistons?

Adiabatic but permeable pistons have applications in various industries, such as in engines and refrigeration systems. They are also used in laboratory experiments to study thermodynamics and heat transfer.

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