Air Resistance and drag coefficien

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The discussion focuses on calculating the drag coefficient, k, for a 10kg object projected upward at 60m/s that hits the ground after 8.4 seconds. The relevant equation involves the drag force and the integration factor e^rt. Participants suggest using the initial velocity to determine the constant C and integrating to find the height, setting it to zero at both t=0 and t=8.4 seconds. The velocity at impact is debated, with some suggesting it should be -60 m/s. Ultimately, the solution involves calculating r and using it to find k based on the object's mass.
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Homework Statement



An object of mass 10kg is projected upwards (from ground level) with initial velocity 60m/s. It hits the ground 8.4 seconds later.

Find the drag coefficient, k.


Homework Equations



dv/dt + rv = -g, where r = k/m


The Attempt at a Solution



I have used the integrating factor of e^rt to give me the final equation:

v = -g/r + C/e^rt

I then plug in the initial values to get:

60 = -98/k + C

I am not sure what to do next. We are given an impact time of 8.4 seconds. Do I assume that at this instant the velocity is -60 m/s (i.e. the exact opposite of the initial)? Or can I assume that at time 4.2 seconds the velocity is equal to 0? In either case, I am not sure how to solve the equation so that I only have one variable (e.g. just k or just C).

Thanks
 
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I have used the integrating factor of e^rt to give me the final equation:

I don't follow your logic, why would you do this? I would start by making a FBD of the object. Your drag force will obviously be a function of velocity but you should come up with a fairly simple integral based off of the golden kinematics equations.
 
Solved it.

I had to use e^-rt, use the initial velocity to give me a value for C, substitute that back in and then integrate with respect to t to give me height. From there you know that at t=0 and t=8.4, the height is 0. You can then calculate r and because you know the mass, k.

Use that r value for the velocity and you can then solve the velocity at t=8.4. The maximum height will be when the velocity equation is equal to 0.

:D

Took me 2 hours, but I worked it out.
 
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