Solve Algebra Question: Projectile Fired at 30m/s, Angle 60°, 7.5s Later

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A projectile is fired at 30 m/s at a 60-degree angle, hitting the ground after 7.5 seconds. The calculated vertical displacement upon impact is -80.8 meters, while the maximum height (y1) is determined to be 34.4 meters. The user is struggling with isolating y1 using the equation 0 = (30sin60)^2 + 2(-9.8)(y1-0), leading to confusion in calculations. A forum member clarifies the algebraic steps to isolate y1 correctly, emphasizing the importance of careful calculator use to avoid errors. The discussion highlights the need for clear mathematical understanding and practice in projectile motion problems.
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Homework Statement


A projectile is fired with an initial speed of 30 m/s at an angle of 60 degrees above the horizontal. The object hits the ground 7.5 s later.
knowns: x0=y0=t0= 0, v0=30 m/s, t2= 7.5 s, angle= 60 degree, ay= -9.8 m/s, v1y=0, and v1x=v0x=v2x...find: y2-y0 y1-y0 and v2 angle



Homework Equations


1# vy2= y0 + v0y(t2-t0)+ 1/2ay(t2-t0)^2
2# v1y^2=v0y^2 + 2ay(y1-y0)



The Attempt at a Solution


I've found y2=-80.8 meters and am currently trying to figure out y1. I am using equation #2 and have this 0m/s^2= (30sin60m/s)^2 +2(-9.8m/s^2)(y1-0m) = y1= 34.4 m. I know the answer, but am having trouble isolating y1, i.e. not sure how to do the algebra. Everytime i attempt it, i get the wrong answer. any help will be appreciated, thanks.
 
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doucette1717 said:
1# vy2= y0 + v0y(t2-t0)+ 1/2ay(t2-t0)^2
2# v1y^2=v0y^2 + 2ay(y1-y0)

3. The Attempt at a Solution
I've found y2=-80.8 meters and am currently trying to figure out y1. I am using equation #2 and have this 0m/s^2= (30sin60m/s)^2 +2(-9.8m/s^2)(y1-0m) = y1= 34.4 m. I know the answer, but am having trouble isolating y1, i.e. not sure how to do the algebra. Everytime i attempt it, i get the wrong answer. any help will be appreciated, thanks.

Hi doucette1717! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(I assume y1 is the maximum height.)

Your y2 = -80.8 and y1 = 34.4 seem to be correct.

So I don't understand what answer you're not getting. :confused:

Show us the algebra you're having trouble with. :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi doucette1717! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(I assume y1 is the maximum height.)

Your y2 = -80.8 and y1 = 34.4 seem to be correct.

So I don't understand what answer you're not getting. :confused:

Show us the algebra you're having trouble with. :smile:


Well the problem is with this 0m/s^2= (30sin60m/s)^2 +2(-9.8m/s^2)(y1-0m) = y1= 34.4 m.
i was given the answer, i myself don't understand how to isolate y1 and do the math to get 34.4 m.
 
doucette1717 said:
Well the problem is with this 0m/s^2= (30sin60m/s)^2 +2(-9.8m/s^2)(y1-0m) = y1= 34.4 m.
i was given the answer, i myself don't understand how to isolate y1 and do the math to get 34.4 m.

oh I see …

well, you have 0 = (30sin60m/s)^2 +2(-9.8m/s^2)(y1-0m)

ie 0 = (30*0.866)² + 2*-9.8*y1,

so y1 = (30*0.866)²/2*9.8 = 34.4. :smile:

what was worrying you? :confused:
 
i have a test coming up soon. My math skills aren't the greatest. Just trying to improve them so i can do better on my test. Thanks.

update:
so i tried the calculation you gave me and i got 3307. m. I'm not sure what I am doing wrong either, i plugged those exact values right into my calculator.
 
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doucette1717 said:
i have a test coming up soon. My math skills aren't the greatest. Just trying to improve them so i can do better on my test. Thanks.

update:
so i tried the calculation you gave me and i got 3307. m. I'm not sure what I am doing wrong either, i plugged those exact values right into my calculator.

Hi doucette! :smile:

That's because you plugged in ((30*0.866)²/2)*9.8 instead of (30*0.866)²/2*9.8. :rolleyes:

Tip: If you're using a cacluator, it's easy to go wrong, so always check that the result is roughly correct …

in this case, you know it's roughly 30*30/2*10 = 45 … so 3307 is obviously about 100 time too much! :smile:

Another tip: if I'm using a calculator, I do the bottom line first, then I press "1/x", then I do the top line! :smile:
 
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