Amplifying AC Signal: LM358 Op-Amp Circuit for Full AC Signal Amplification

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The discussion centers on amplifying a sinusoidal AC voltage using an LM358 op-amp in a non-inverting amplifier configuration. Participants explore methods to achieve full AC signal amplification, addressing issues related to the output being rectified and only showing the positive half of the signal.

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  • One participant notes that the output signal is rectified, suggesting that the LM358's single positive power supply may be the cause.
  • Another participant proposes using capacitive coupling to add a constant offset voltage to the input signal, which could keep it within the op-amp's supply range.
  • A different suggestion involves using two power supplies, one above and one below the ground level of the signal, to provide the necessary voltage range for amplification.
  • Another participant describes a specific circuit configuration involving resistors and a capacitor to create an offset voltage for the non-inverting input, while maintaining a gain of about 100.

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Participants present multiple competing views on how to address the issue of amplifying the full AC signal, with no consensus reached on the best approach.

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Participants discuss various methods without resolving the implications of using different power supply configurations or the effectiveness of capacitive coupling in this context.

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I have a sinusoidal AC voltage with roughly Vrms = 50mV. I wanted to amplify with a non-inverting amplifier circuit with the LM358 op-amp. I used resistors of 100ohm and 10kohm for a theoretical gain of 100x. However, my output signal is rectified so that only the positive half of the signal shows. I reckon this is because the LM358 is a low power op-amp and only uses a single, positive power supply. What can I do to ensure that a full AC signal is amplified with the LM358? I thought of giving the input signal an offset using diodes but that seem to complicated.
 
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Depending upon the frequency response you need, you might be able to capacitively couple your signal of interest into the middle of a resistor divider. That will effectively add a constant offset voltage, putting the op-amp input signal within its supply range.

- Warren
 
Alternatively, you could simply use two power supplies, one below and one above the ground level of your signal.

- Warren
 
You can do this:

[PLAIN]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4222062/non%20inv%20amp.PNG

The supply shown as 2.5 volts at left can be a pair of resistors (maybe 3.3 K) in series across the power supply with an electrolytic capacitor across the bottom one. Maybe 22 uF.
Take the output from the junction of the two resistors.

The 100 K brings this voltage to the non inverting input and the signal is coupled to this input via a 0.1 µF capacitor. V1 is the input signal.

The gain is about 100.
 
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