An electron in a magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angle between the velocity of an electron and a magnetic field given specific parameters. Initially, the user incorrectly applied the formulas, leading to a domain error when calculating the sine of the angle. After clarification, it was determined that the velocity of the electron was a crucial missing factor in the calculations. By correctly incorporating the velocity, the user successfully derived the angle as approximately 61.27 degrees. The conversation highlights the importance of ensuring all variables are accounted for in physics problems.
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Homework Statement


The acceleration of an electron in a magnetic field of 87 mT at a certain point is 1.268×1017 m/s2. Calculate the angle between the velocity and magnetic field.


Homework Equations


F = q dot v cross B
F = qBsin(theta)
F/m = a

The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated the force on the electron using F/m = a rearranged to F = ma, then plugged F into F = qBsin(theta). I came up with sin-1(8243000) = theta, which is obviously incorrect.

Am I making a calculation error, or is there an error with my formulas?

In advance, any help is much appreciated and thank you.
 
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There is a mild error in your formula, at least a bit. You know F = ma, you know the mass of the electron (it's a constant) and you know a since it's given. You also know F = qB sin(\theta) and you know B (given) and q, constant. So you get sin^{-1}(\frac{ma}{qB}) = \theta

Make sense?
 
Hmm, that is what I have above, at least I think.

Because when you substitute F = ma into F = qBsin(theta), you end up with ma = qbSin(theta), which can be arranged to sin-1(ma/qb) = Theta.

The values I used:
m = 9.1E-31 kg
q = 1.609E-19 C
B = 87E-3 T
a = 1.268E17

I still end up calculating 8243000, and when I try to take the inverse sine of that I get a domain error.
 
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I get a very similar number for ma/(qb). Is it possible you have a or B written down incorrectly?
 
I just checked again, and those are the correct values for a and B.
 
OH! F = qvBsin(\theta[\tex]). You missed the v which should account for the 10<sup>7[\SUP] factor.</sup>
 
Ah alright, that does make sense then. How would I go about calculating the velocity though?

qvb = F
F = ma
qvb = ma
v = 8243000

qvB/ma = sin(theta)

qvB/ma = 1, giving you theta = 90 degrees.

This unfortunately is incorrect.. =\
 
qvb = F? That's missing a sin(theta) isn't it, that would then explain how you get sin(theta) = 1.

I think there's an equation we're not looking at that we should be because otherwise we've two unknowns and only one question. Or perhaps velocity should be a given (which is how I see the question posed elsewhere online).
 
It mentions in an earlier part of the problem that the velocity is 9.40×106, however it doesn't specify if that remains constant throughout the problem.

Assuming for a moment that it does, let's try to plug that into the equation:

F = qvBsin(theta)
F = 1.609E-19 * 9.40×106 * 87E-3 (I'm assuming 87 mT = 87 E-3 T)

And, assuming that I can use F = ma (which I'm not sure about)

I can substitute ma = 9.1E-31 * 1.268E17, divide that by qvB

End up with sin-1(.8769)
= 61.27 deg

Which is the correct answer! Thanks a lot for your help, sorry I missed the velocity, probably would have helped from the beginning..
 
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No worries; for all the online things I've worked with like that all the givens are constant unless stated otherwise.

Welcome, and good work!
 
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