Analytical equation for Magnetic Levitation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the challenges of deriving an analytical equation for a magnetic levitation system. Participants explore the relationship between the vertical distance of an object and the current supplied to the electromagnet, focusing on how changes in current affect the position of the levitated item.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • David describes his magnetic levitation system and seeks an equation F(i, x) to relate current (i) to vertical distance (x).
  • Some participants suggest that analytical analysis of such systems is generally not feasible, indicating that empirical methods may be necessary.
  • One participant proposes that an empirical formula could be developed through extensive testing and data fitting.
  • David expresses a willingness to update the thread with experimental results regarding the relationship between mass, current, and position.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that an analytical solution is unlikely and that empirical methods may be the best approach, though the discussion remains open to further exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of analytical approaches in this context and the dependence on empirical data for formulating relationships between current and vertical position.

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Hello everyone,

So I've stumped uppon some problems during my project. It is not my homework or anything, so I didn't post it there.

I've built a magnetic levitation system, which could lift up to 2kg. The problem is, that we cannot regulate the vertical position of the item. But that can be MECHANICALY added later, it's not the main problem.

The main problem is, that we need an EQUATION or function F(i, x) - where 'x' stands for vertical distance and 'i' for the the current.

So what I want to know is, for how much does X change, if I add more current / power to the electromagnet ?

http://shrani.si/f/9/P5/3I3OPWvS/magnetna-levitacija-skic.png


Here is the scheme for easier interpretation (I apologise, it is not in English). The impotmant thing is the POSITION of the system! I don't want to have electromagnet to levitate from ground up - but too pull the item up!

I hope you understand. If not, please ask what you don't understand and I'll try to explain it better.

Kind Regards,
David
 
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In general, it is not possible to analyze those systems analytically. You can find some approximations, you can simulate it numerically, or measure it, but there is no general formula where you just plug in your values and get the force as result.
 
mfb is right. You can't really analyze that system analytically. You can make an empirical formula by testing it a lot and doing a curve fit through your data and you'll get an equation.
 
So it's down to experimentally define it?
Honestly, I thought so too. I'll update this thread, if someone might be curious about the results for such mass to levitate - how the X and i react to each others.

Thanks.
Regards,
David
 

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